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Post by citationneeded on Mar 13, 2014 4:03:39 GMT -5
So I am a non-believer in the Fukushima controversy, I guess you guys would call me a Nuclear Apologist. It's been 3 years since Fukushima and really nothing has changed. Life in Japan goes on as normal. There is no martial law, mass genocide, or internet censorship. My buddy was stationed in Japan, none of this stuff is happening. Furthermore, Japan is a high tech country - they love their gadgets! If these claims were actually happening, the world would hear about it and it would be a monster news story. The west coast is not glowing with radiation. I was just in Seattle 6 months ago, there is no effect from Fukushima. Cancer rates have not skyrocketed. If the claims that Dana makes are true and there are hundreds of thousands or millions of becquerels of radiation coming over, that level of radiation would be dropping people dead in no time. It hasn't happened, it's been 3 years. If the Pacific Ocean is devoid of life there would be large fishing shortages and severe food shortages as a result. Again, hasn't happened.
So, this world-ending disaster of Fukushima happened, but we've seen no real serious effects in three years. How long do you guys need to wait before you begin doubting these claims? 5 years? 10 years? Forever?
Please don't write me off as a troll, I'm genuinely interested and I am willing to change my mind on the subject but I don't see that happening.
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Post by starlight on Mar 13, 2014 6:09:46 GMT -5
You are a 'non believer' in the Fukushima 'controversy'.....what a strange starting point? what part of Fukushima is a 'controversy' non believer? You have friends..a 'buddy'?...really?...you can prove this?..i am a 'non believer' right there! you won't convince me otherwise..
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Post by pasha on Mar 13, 2014 6:19:39 GMT -5
So I am a non-believer in the Fukushima controversy, I guess you guys would call me a Nuclear Apologist. It's been 3 years since Fukushima and really nothing has changed. Life in Japan goes on as normal. There is no martial law, mass genocide, or internet censorship. My buddy was stationed in Japan, none of this stuff is happening. Furthermore, Japan is a high tech country - they love their gadgets! If these claims were actually happening, the world would hear about it and it would be a monster news story. The west coast is not glowing with radiation. I was just in Seattle 6 months ago, there is no effect from Fukushima. Cancer rates have not skyrocketed. If the claims that Dana makes are true and there are hundreds of thousands or millions of becquerels of radiation coming over, that level of radiation would be dropping people dead in no time. It hasn't happened, it's been 3 years. If the Pacific Ocean is devoid of life there would be large fishing shortages and severe food shortages as a result. Again, hasn't happened. So, this world-ending disaster of Fukushima happened, but we've seen no real serious effects in three years. How long do you guys need to wait before you begin doubting these claims? 5 years? 10 years? Forever? Please don't write me off as a troll, I'm genuinely interested and I am willing to change my mind on the subject but I don't see that happening. Hello CN, welcome mate. I like that your straight up good form. So I can only speak for myself here the others will speak for themselves. Where I sit there is no controvesary about Fuku & it's open to interpretation. My interpretation is that we are pretty much fucked if this is continued to be ignored. Japan is no going to tell its own ppl that "hey btw, we lied to you all about the nuclear power plant, but the world already hates us because we slaughter any whales we can get our hands on, plus how do we tell the world that we have created radiation that could possibly destroy the planet, just saying.. & sorry ppl of Fukushima hope you don't mind the make shift cardboard divide homes we have installed for you in a warehouse just big enough to fit you all nice a tight & pls don't get your hopes up of returning to your homes it ain't going to happen, ever" so Dana is providing information he relentlessly researches I reckon 18 hrs a day. He himself hopes he can visit the middle of the pacific & is totally wrong, he truly wishes he was wrong, but when your talking about nuclear reactors leaking into the sea, it really does make an oil spill look not so bad. The way the world appears is not at all as it seems & the more awake you become to just how cruel & evil people really are the more understanding of of the lengths Japan will & are going to to cover Fuku up. It's been 3 years & we all aren't dead, that's a good thing. Have a look at Chernobyl & how the levels of radiation affected the earth & people. Fuku is much worse but Chernobyl was bad enough, there's no way Japan are putting up their hands & saying Fuku is worse. Admittedly, I'm not the one who is up to speed with the nuclear science ins & outs, in fact im probably the least educated on the science, but the evidence is there buried as how do you tell the world that things to come aren't unicorns & rainbows, but cancers, birth defects, marine & land animals deaths? Well it's doesn't happen. It would be like the CIA admitting that they smuggled cocaine to fund their operations & the British Monarchy help them do this, all whilst protecting the Vatican from being exposed for who they really are child traffickers! its not about hasn't happened, it's happening. The fact we aren't all dead & extremely sick means we have more time to fight it & expose it. Ask the ppl on Dana's live shows their thoughts on cancers & debilitating illness, I'm sure once you hear their stories that your perceptions on life changing illness have indeed skyrocketed, but statistics don't tell you that as they are not accurate in any way shape or form. Yep Japan is a high tech country, but what has that got to do with anything when Japan's people are brain washed also. Testing on fish has been carried out on fish in the pacific & radiation has been detected & some fish have been taken off the market. My question is how can one species of fish be affected & the next not? Have a look at the youtube clips in the forum. The more you see for yourself the better you will understand. I live in Australia & last week on 60 minutes the main report was in Fukushima, I couldn't believe it. It was the first time it has made main stream coverage on that scale in the world, Dr Helen Caddidott who is a anti nuclear physicist stated the the radiation that has leaked into pacific is not repairable... As per usual though she's a bit late with running to the streets, however she has spoken out. Also keep in mind that people get killed for speaking out on subjects the elites want kept secret. It's as simple as if they want you to shut up & you don't your dead Fred! If it takes 10 years then we have a shit load more time, but forever is not an option, it's just not.... On a final note, there is f^*k all fish in our oceans. Im not saying Fuku has killed all the fish, but the mega trawlers that scoop up whatever they can from around the oceans then wip them back to South Africa to be filleted then distributed back to Australia & sold as fresh fish is what's hugely causing shortages. Sustainable is the biggest crock of shit word splashed across anything media & government... A friend of mine sailed from Darwin Australia to South Africa with crew they all fished everyday & caught not one single fish... you won't get trolled, everybody has an opinion I think it's pretty cool you are open minded.. Anyway although I've raved on, I'm not the one who has the direct detailed facts, I'm the one who welcomes you to the den & believe you will be a hound in no time! Ash
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Post by pasha on Mar 13, 2014 6:30:01 GMT -5
Shit sorry Citationneeded, id just realized how long that response was... On & on lol
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Post by Admin on Mar 13, 2014 21:29:35 GMT -5
So I am a non-believer in the Fukushima controversy, I guess you guys would call me a Nuclear Apologist. It's been 3 years since Fukushima and really nothing has changed. I'm sorry, forgive me, but I do find it odd that you have willingly labelled yourself as a Nuclear Apologist... Are you sure of this, or merely speculating from the disinformation that is being spread by the mainstream media farce, and the disinformation the government is feeding our military personnel??... Ummm Well, we USED to get reports out of Japan constantly, that spoke of them not having any clue of what to do, or how to even begin to contain this ONGOING release from Fukushima.... at least until last Oct. That was when another VERY large earthquake hit Japan. Immediately, Japan's government conviened to motion a secrecy bill, and immediately passed their new secrecy law; bringing their country back into fascism with the veil of secrecy. Since then, a Japanese person can be imprisonned for speaking out about the ongoing release of radiation from Fukushima, and it is difficult, to say the least, for the Japanese people to be able to visit any Internet sites outside of their country if the sites have ANYTHING about Fukushima news.. So no, the world is no longer hearing ANYTHING about the truth of the release of radiation from Fukushima. They don't want this "monster news story" to get out. Did you honestly think that radiation is something that glows, as though it is a black-light poster? It Is invisible! lolol Sorry, but for someone who is trying to say they are "willing to change" their "mind on the subject," that was an extremely sarcastic statement... and how can you say there "is no effect from Fukushima" in Seattle... Can you tell what is beneath the surface of the water by looking at it from shore? Did you go to their Hospitals to find out their rate of birth deformities, heart attack deaths, and cancer deaths and prognosis' over the past 3 years? Tell me, please, what "effect" would you expect to see?? The last mass statistics of cancer rates was done in 2007. Then, the rates were 4.2 people in 1,000 would get cancer. Now, 3 years since the beginning of the ongoing fukushima release; yes, ONGOING, the statistics have suddenly jumped to 1 in 2 men, and 1 in 3 women will get cancer. I would have to say that is pretty skyrocketing... Not true "citationneeded," although IF you do your homework, you WILL find that an alarming rate of people HAVE been dropping dead from heart attacks, and an even more alarming amount of people; especially children, have suddenly been diagnosed with thyroid cancers, AND an unbelievable amount of people that had their cancer in remission, have suddenly had their cancers awaken, and are dead or dying; again, all within the last 3 years.I have one "fishing shortage" to speak of that SHOULD perk your ears up. The British Columbia herring industry has always been HUGE, with catches of billions if not more, every year, but last year after the fishermen came back, they reported that NOT ONE herring was found... Not ONE! Oh my goodness! Look at the bold, sadly sacrastic shouting! You say you're "genuinely interested" but your shouting statement above sounds more like someone that is completely closed minded, and is indeed a Nuclear Apologist; as you quite willingly admitted in your first statement here... hmmmmI will decide what to "write you off" as, when I see your next reply within this thread. At that point, I will know whether you belong here, or should be put into OUR underground salt mine Containment Storage area for nuclear Trolls and Shills.
I'm waiting to read your next reply... still waiting here...
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Post by starlight on Mar 13, 2014 22:48:22 GMT -5
I am not convinced this forum is a place for arm twisting trolls who choose to fly on little data from the official bodies.
To Quote: Science involves thinking but does not arise from it; the groundwork of science is observation and experiment. (C.H Waddington)
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Post by Ysalys (Kate) on Mar 13, 2014 22:54:46 GMT -5
I am not convinced this forum is a place for arm twisting trolls who choose to fly on little data from the official bodies. To Quote: Science involves thinking but does not arise from it; the groundwork of science is observation and experiment. (C.H Waddington) Not to worry starlight, I'm going to be moving this thread to the Trolls and Shills Containment board. Just working on a couple things here, then the move is on. lol
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