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Post by missfrill on Mar 7, 2014 21:18:56 GMT -5
I think it is fun to beat them up.But many differ. [last option should say ' no opinion' ]
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Post by Ysalys (Kate) on Mar 7, 2014 21:24:06 GMT -5
I think it is fun to beat them up.But many differ. Out of all the people viewing Dana's shows, it's really only a handfull of us that actually post in the chat area. The rest of the viewers CAN be swayed by these trolls and shills that attack. That is always my worry. We need to be able to help OPEN the eyes of our viewers that quietly watch your shows, and us hounds that are chatting during the show. Us getting all sidetracked by these fools, only helps to prevent the viewers from getting the whole picture as Dana presents it.
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Post by lunarleejunn on Mar 7, 2014 21:33:24 GMT -5
Sometimes trolls make me laugh. Other times their disinfo really tweaks me.
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Post by TheOriginalPunisher on Mar 7, 2014 23:49:48 GMT -5
Life has shown IGNOR works best for most trolls.
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Post by grammagoldie on Mar 8, 2014 0:03:48 GMT -5
I would prefer the troll's facts be attacked, rather than the troll.
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Post by Ysalys (Kate) on Mar 8, 2014 1:34:05 GMT -5
I would prefer the troll's facts be attacked, rather than the troll. True, grammagoldie, but Dana's shows do address all the fake facts that the trolls bring up. The big thing, is when we argue with them, we are feeding their fire, and they are winning; we are giving them an opening to repond to our arguments. Ignoring them, or flagging them as spam, or even telling them quite succinctly to leave; with mannered profundity, is not feeding their fire. That will upset them, make them squirm, and make them give up their fight. They can't fight if no-one will fight with them... lolol To me, the meaning of the word "profound" is being able to tell someone to go to hell, and leave them anticipating the voyage... lolol Let them scream their insults after your profound statement to them, and from then on, ignore them. lolol Nothing shuts an idiot down faster than that.
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Post by missfrill on Mar 8, 2014 9:24:40 GMT -5
I guess I gotta resist my urge to bat them around. I am with majority rule =sigh=. It's just so many places where trolls hang out they are the majority in the comments ... it was fun to be the majority and clobber them when they wander in. I'll keep my hands in my pockets next time.
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Post by starlight on Mar 8, 2014 13:35:44 GMT -5
Trolls....not worth spending too much effort on
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Post by franz on Mar 8, 2014 18:41:41 GMT -5
The disinformation agents are paid to do it all day by Mossad. It's not always easy to know that's what they are instead of just another brain-dead sheep baying his ignorance. So, we have to be vigilant and recognize them and out them, challenge them and be sharp with the facts.
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Post by pasha on Mar 9, 2014 13:13:45 GMT -5
It seems it depends on my mood to how I react to trolls... I guess it's what they say that prods my reaction... I do admit my favourite response is "fit in or f^*k off" lolo
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2014 19:56:25 GMT -5
I think it is fun to beat them up.But many differ. Out of all the people viewing Dana's shows, it's really only a handfull of us that actually post in the chat area. The rest of the viewers CAN be swayed by these trolls and shills that attack. That is always my worry. We need to be able to help OPEN the eyes of our viewers that quietly watch your shows, and us hounds that are chatting during the show. Us getting all sidetracked by these fools, only helps to prevent the viewers from getting the whole picture as Dana presents it. I never thought of it that way, but YES it is important to reveal the disinformation!!! For those who are learning about Fukushima!
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Post by fansfiltration on Mar 11, 2014 1:16:11 GMT -5
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Post by pasha on Mar 11, 2014 10:42:49 GMT -5
Today on Dana's show was the worst trolling I've seen. I don't watch everyday live due to time difference so I may have missed trolling this bad, however I'm concerned with the next step these trolls are willing or ordered to do. Saying that Dana is on the pedo list is just outrageous, so obviously they have listed him on it & have created a profile about him so they can steer people who are easily manipulated into believing such nonsense.
The trolling was very heavy & no sooner had they been spammed they had a new YT ID & were at it again. I'm glad Dana has the ability to ignore these arseholes, but they are getting worse & as hounds I believe we need to do something about it..... Thoughts? Ignoring them isn't what I'm suggesting, doing something else is what I'm thinking but I'm not IT savvy... How can we make the LIVE show a better experience & do our best to elimate the trolls? Or am I dreaming?
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Post by pasha on Mar 12, 2014 12:12:19 GMT -5
firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/I believe us hounds are up to speed, however Thought I'd post this link in case anybody has a misunderstanding, requires knowledge, or needs a refresher regarding trolling at its worst & what lengths extremists & their employees will go to... I haven't witnessed these bastards at the level I have in the recent weeks, & their posts are offensive & must eventually take a toll on their marks, no matter how resilient they appear in the spot light.. I needed a reminder on how & why these pricks operate, as this is not in my makeup to action this shit, so it's a battle to even fathom such disturbing behaviour.... They may attempt to derail their target, but not falling for the bait is the key!!
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Post by starlight on Mar 12, 2014 12:18:24 GMT -5
is it just me...?...right now all comments on youtube are gone...is this the ultimate troll attack?
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Post by bodiless on Mar 14, 2014 0:54:12 GMT -5
OK pardon my newness , but let me offer an opinion-- Everyone has a right to an opinion good, bad, right, or wrong. Many of us older folks who have lived under indoctrination for so long have a resistance to change. A lot of proof required to open eyes especially if they have been cemented shut for so long. I have found in combating disinfo on subjects on the net, that I get very frustrated with those that espouse a view and have nothing to back it up, even after providing evidence to the contrary. However, how to change the opinion of those on the cusp of change? Aren't these the very people that would be the easiest to change or awaken? To me it seems that a calm demeanor in response instead of diatribe is more effective, and perhaps (as in my case) it provides the curious a different perspective to pursue information. Having said this, I am not yet able to do this 100% of the time I think that we have a long way to go to get a sufficient mass of the populace awake in order to resist the entrenched "group-think"--whatever subject it is. Every journey begins with a small step, and you folks have been on this road a long time--as I said, I'm new to this, and not nearly as frustrated with the opposition as many are. Amongst ourselves, I love being able to vent about the scheming, flagrant, abusive, fuckheads that refuse to examine with an open mind what is revealed. My experience has been to NOT look at proffered information to the contrary when someone has baited me with emotional epitaphs. Education requires at least an open mind to receive, and encouragement to question. We have been taught to NOT question authority--so going against such grain, as the old adage says, you catch more flies with honey then you do with salt. I hope I can still maintain this after I have been at this as long as you guys. I vote give them sound contraian evidence, but do not engage emotionally(ignore after that). Would love to hear some thoughts on this from the activists who have been at this for years(and everyone else too of course). Blessings to us all
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Post by pasha on Mar 14, 2014 2:59:34 GMT -5
OK pardon my newness , but let me offer an opinion-- Everyone has a right to an opinion good, bad, right, or wrong. Many of us older folks who have lived under indoctrination for so long have a resistance to change. A lot of proof required to open eyes especially if they have been cemented shut for so long. I have found in combating disinfo on subjects on the net, that I get very frustrated with those that espouse a view and have nothing to back it up, even after providing evidence to the contrary. However, how to change the opinion of those on the cusp of change? Aren't these the very people that would be the easiest to change or awaken? To me it seems that a calm demeanor in response instead of diatribe is more effective, and perhaps (as in my case) it provides the curious a different perspective to pursue information. Having said this, I am not yet able to do this 100% of the time I think that we have a long way to go to get a sufficient mass of the populace awake in order to resist the entrenched "group-think"--whatever subject it is. Every journey begins with a small step, and you folks have been on this road a long time--as I said, I'm new to this, and not nearly as frustrated with the opposition as many are. Amongst ourselves, I love being able to vent about the scheming, flagrant, abusive, fuckheads that refuse to examine with an open mind what is revealed. My experience has been to NOT look at proffered information to the contrary when someone has baited me with emotional epitaphs. Education requires at least an open mind to receive, and encouragement to question. We have been taught to NOT question authority--so going against such grain, as the old adage says, you catch more flies with honey then you do with salt. I hope I can still maintain this after I have been at this as long as you guys. I vote give them sound contraian evidence, but do not engage emotionally(ignore after that). Would love to hear some thoughts on this from the activists who have been at this for years(and everyone else too of course). Blessings to us all bodiless, your always welcome to offer your opinion, we aren't all here to agree on everything, all that needs to be agreed upon is the information we receive from whatever source is true & correct. Many talented people in this forum & one thing that I haven't experience or feel I would experience is disinformation. Most certainly you will not get that from Dana, he spends every waking hour putting information together & he will discredit anybody that lies & are paid who are nuclear scientist or professors who talk shit to play things down & misinform the masses. Eventually you work out what is wrong & right when off researching on their own & sources are shared, it never a hound v hound. Not everybody has been doing this for a long time, I only discovered Dana by chance 3 or so months ago, I do have other research projects which are endless to say the least & things end up overlapping, perception changes & the way your see things completely changes. Many people who are super hounds at what they do & did before each discovered Dana. Its what you make of it. I haven't been involved in a forum & it would appear Im always here, coz I am heaps. I do have the time atm to invest & I want to make the effort coz people put in effort also. Most trolls aren't interested in evidence they want to take our attention away from what Dana is saying. if you don't have an open mind I don't think you would survive really as its heaps of info going bat shit crazy.
As I said before I'm not the one who has the concrete legit info, I get it off them & Dana. I don't go digging myself just yet because on this subject of Fukushima & all things Nuclear as I'm not educated enough to. Wanna talk Australia, the Illuminati, The Vatican, bloodlines, NWO corruption, conspiracy, natural health, I'm equipped to a certain point.
Swear, carry on, rant do what you need to do, there is a section for what's relevant & your free to start your own topics. Its no one persons gig, there's a place for anger, fun, seriousness etc. You wont find trolls have longevity here, they show up on live shows only really, Fuku hounds have only a max of 3 years experience on this, but some 40, 50 years life experience not living on the grid. Many people have found their due to illness or a life changing event. Authority is always questioned by me & id assume most here.. Chat soon Ive got some Fuku Floozying to do
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Post by bodiless on Mar 14, 2014 4:37:22 GMT -5
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Post by pasha on Mar 14, 2014 6:35:51 GMT -5
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Post by TheOriginalPunisher on Mar 17, 2014 23:42:14 GMT -5
The trolls, my only encounters with any have been on YouTube, and under bridges. First actual live troll I saw was during one of Dana's live stream events. It was entertaining to watch the comments from the troll and anti troll patrol roll past. My experiences with trolls, avoid engaging with them.
Proverbs 23:9
Speak not for the fool's listening; He will despise the wisdom of your words.
Seems like an appropriate description of the troll.
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Post by Ysalys (Kate) on Mar 18, 2014 0:08:34 GMT -5
The trolls, my only encounters with any have been on YouTube, and under bridges. First actual live troll I saw was during one of Dana's live stream events. It was entertaining to watch the comments from the troll and anti troll patrol roll past. My experiences with trolls, avoid engaging with them. Proverbs 23:9 Speak not for the fool's listening; He will despise the wisdom of your words. Seems like an appropriate description of the troll. Amen to that! Well put, and well quoted. Thanks
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Post by pasha on Mar 19, 2014 7:05:38 GMT -5
The trolls, my only encounters with any have been on YouTube, and under bridges. First actual live troll I saw was during one of Dana's live stream events. It was entertaining to watch the comments from the troll and anti troll patrol roll past. My experiences with trolls, avoid engaging with them. Proverbs 23:9 Speak not for the fool's listening; He will despise the wisdom of your words. Seems like an appropriate description of the troll. OH Original, I love what you post here & on Boobtube! Your a good stick
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Post by bodiless on Mar 19, 2014 15:35:14 GMT -5
Really have to find a way to centralize(make our own youtube) informative truth vids and links to unbiased research: www.digitaltrends.com/web/youtube-using-200-super-flaggers-to-hunt-down-offending-content/#!Az33S today I have lost over half of my subscripted channels, so important content is no longer being pushed to my account; many comments are never posted there and people I have been emailing from youtube are not getting the emails; other channels have been posting content for days when checked on a friend's computer, yet my subscription DOES NOT SHOW NEWEST Content >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>UGH<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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Post by Ysalys (Kate) on Mar 21, 2014 0:24:05 GMT -5
Really have to find a way to centralize(make our own youtube) informative truth vids and links to unbiased research: www.digitaltrends.com/web/youtube-using-200-super-flaggers-to-hunt-down-offending-content/#!Az33S today I have lost over half of my subscripted channels, so important content is no longer being pushed to my account; many comments are never posted there and people I have been emailing from youtube are not getting the emails; other channels have been posting content for days when checked on a friend's computer, yet my subscription DOES NOT SHOW NEWEST Content >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>UGH<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Bodiless, I have also heard this news about ytube, and yes, it does worry me as well. I have tried various other ytube-like sites over the years, and sadly, it is ytube that has the most viewers to reach. I do agree though, and will start doing a search again, to find another site that will not be dissappearing like so many do; that we can upload our videos to for backup, and linking to for visitors to see here. We may still have under a hundred members, but we have had MANY hudrends of guests viewing here, and more and more each day. We are becoming popular here, so if we can upload our videos to a place that we will have a link to be able to use here, then we can have this place to show and share our videos to the masses. I will create another board reserved just for videos to share with all.
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Post by randallvance on Mar 21, 2014 1:14:26 GMT -5
I say call out their retarded "Straw Man" arguments to show we know better and are above them. Then simply ignore the child like ranting.
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Post by Ysalys (Kate) on Mar 21, 2014 10:51:02 GMT -5
I say call out their retarded "Straw Man" arguments to show we know better and are above them. Then simply ignore the child like ranting. Yes, randallvance, but please do alert me to any here, so I may deal with them swiftly. They will either be moved to the "Trolls and Shills Containment," if the post is helpful, or deleted completely, and ultimately banned. I will NOT tolerate them or their insults here. This is not their public line to hang their dirty laundy up for all to see. This is OUR Den, where we need to be protected.
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Post by randallvance on Mar 21, 2014 12:11:53 GMT -5
I say call out their retarded "Straw Man" arguments to show we know better and are above them. Then simply ignore the child like ranting. Yes, randallvance, but please do alert me to any here, so I may deal with them swiftly. They will either be moved to the "Trolls and Shills Containment," if the post is helpful, or deleted completely, and ultimately banned. I will NOT tolerate them or their insults here. This is not their public line to hang their dirty laundy up for all to see. This is OUR Den, where we need to be protected.
I agree, I was thinking about live stream chats. Contain the trolls that invade the den. I'll look out for em'.
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Post by grammagoldie on Mar 21, 2014 14:15:35 GMT -5
the troll's comments I've seen on Dana's live streams come across as childish and laughable to me. Like a bored teenager, just trying to agitate, not even believing what they say. It is easy for me to IGNORE them.
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Post by pasha on Mar 22, 2014 6:31:30 GMT -5
the troll's comments I've seen on Dana's live streams come across as childish and laughable to me. Like a bored teenager, just trying to agitate, not even believing what they say. It is easy for me to IGNORE them. Your so right gramma, I don't often react, but as we all now & feel that the 1 hr a day can be an emotional ride depending on what the topic is & how Dana is. We all can't help but react at times & jump in as protective hounds.... We should have a day off nobody reacting or responding to trolls, just all write one word like "bananas" for example so not to feed troll & frustrate them by nobody reacting lol
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Post by missfrill on Jul 16, 2014 3:19:26 GMT -5
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