www.countercurrents.org/snefjella210415.htmDana Durnford’s Post-Fukushima Odyssey: Documenting Ecocide on Canada’s West Coast This article includes bits of transcripts.
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“Transcript of Jeff Rense Radio interview of Yoichi Shimatsu and Dana Durnford on 9th March 2015 (03-09-15):
Jeff Rense: Welcome Back, hour # 3, we do our weekly Fukushima Report update, only the worst calamity in recorded human history, caused by us, and perhaps only the first of several similar catastrophes which are just around the corner. I’ll tell you, there are a lot of potentials out there. These [nuclear] plants are old , they’re rickety, they’re rusting, they’re rotting, the pipes no longer fit together, they’re leaking, god only knows what kinds of things are potentially about to go with dozens and dozens of these plants just here in the United States, oops excuse me, formerly United States. I always do that, force of habit you know. Yoichi Shimatsu is standing by and he is without question, in my humble estimation, the world’s number one most important authority on the Fukushima calamity that there probably ever will be, and we have proven that I think in the amount of information, perspective, and extraordinary writings that he has contributed to Rense.com over the past four years now, about this disaster. Hello my friend. And welcome back.
Yoichi Shimatsu: Hi there, I’m in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, at a conference, peace conference where I did get a chance to mention Fukushima and the disaster and many of the people being peace activists mentioned the military-related weapons development at suspected sites inside the larger Fukushima complex which is even parts outside of Fukushima prefecture, not far out, but hidden sites which we’ve become aware of cause of massive radiation levels, and the fact that people, rescue workers, could not get in to some of these sites and the massive excavation work that’s been done. Just left Germany, of course, and we talked with you about that last week, right, from Germany, [Jeff: Oh yah] Angela Merkel, the President of Germany is now in Japan just meeting with Shinzō Abe , where she warned him about his bad relationships with China and Korea, because obviously, if relations, if he did not antagonize his neighbors so much, to justify this illegal, unconstitutional weapons program, Fukushima, which contributed to the disaster, but not the sole cause of the disaster by any means, but explains the massive and yet to be reported more massive releases of radioactive materials, including massively, very, very enriched plutonium and tonnes of it, you know, ah, being released out of Fukushima, which is so deadly.
Oh the other point Jeff is you called yourself, ah, humble, you should not be humble, you should be quite proud of the work you have done since the very day of 3/11 and the anniversary of course is tomorrow, at least here is Asia. It’ll be two days over there, in the United States because of the time difference, but you should be extremely proud, this is some of your finest work, that you’ve ever done. I’ve been following your site since 1995, [Jeff: My goodness] when the Japanese government, at the end of that, (in 1995 by the way I had the most successful and the most popular website in the new Internet news department ever and a lot of the folks on the Tokyo subway gassing, which also dealt with the nuclear issues at Hokkai (Moro?), when the members of the cult actually inside the nuclear plant weapons developers released, deliberately released radiation, twice, and some of that did reach Tokyo, and we were the only ones to report that on our website…)
Jeff: I remember your website, you were the only one doing it, there was no one else doing it.
Yoichi: Yes, there was Archipelago, but before that we had the Japan Times Weekly website, which was you know massively popular, we were three times more hits than the nearest contender which was a men’s magazine, you know, and that was five times ahead of anything else, so we were way out in the lead, it was a one horse race, and then Dentsu, at that time the world’s largest advertising company, visited our newspaper management office, and told the managers there, ah we Dentsu need to control the top five sites in Japan for advertising purposes, online advertising is a new field we want to control the top, decide who is going to be printing those five top sites, and therefore you have to unplug your website, otherwise consequences will be that the Japan Times will receive no advertising, and we had a contract with Dentsu, where they were our sole advertising company, in other words they were going to shut, basically, take away, yes, from our newspaper, you know, and basically starve it of funds and destroy it if we did not turn over our website so the management talked to me, and I told them, look, you managers didn’t have to do it but you toughed it out during the subway gassing when everyone else folded, you allowed me to continue investigations, we’ve put top politicians in jail, and implicated many others, we have shown the truth, it’s on record, and ah I cannot see you now all be fired basically, lose your company, this company is the only one that allowed this to go on for more than a year, so therefore I owe you guys something, yah I owe you something for that press freedom and yah we’ll just have to shut down the site, and I’ll start a new one, and that, you know, that was that. You see? And at the time I was following your site and I mean there was a huge number of scandals then right, I mean, ah …
Jeff: I was getting my news from you. That’s where I was getting my news.
Yoichi: Yah we were picking up stuff from you, and that was the early days of Internet news, really, the earliest, I mean there was other stuff earlier but it was not quite as well composed or developed, in terms of Internet news, there was a lot of alien sites and all that stuff but I’m talking about actual delivering of the hard news on the tough stories, 95 really was a banner year for you know for online news.
Jeff: I think you’re right, it was still too early for the controllers to have penetrated everything by then.
Yoichi: Exactly, and that was 20 years ago! Can you believe that? Twenty years ago we were doing that and we were the pioneers in serious news, doing the hard hitting stories.
Jeff: That’s true I guess. My site was called Sightings.com then, I switched it to Rense, then. You know it’s funny but I never knew until now that you were my, my colleague in Japan who was bringing the Om Shin Rikio out and all this stuff.
Yoichi: Yah yah yah. Yah yah. We don’t brag about our post past work but being the 20th anniversary of the subway gassing I suppose I should write you know coming up fairly soon, later this month, the 25th, ah I’ll try to do a series of articles of what we reported, and sort of look back on how we have amended, yah we were in the middle of a massive news blackout you remember and cover up, and disinformation, everyone was scrambling because every intelligence agency in the world had their fingers in the Om Shin Rikio pie there, you know the nerve gas pie, the weapons, you know, and so we were going really up against a global cover up as extensive as the one we are now facing. Unfortunately we don’t have something comparable to the Japan Times Weekly there that could be a press that could you know stand up to all these forces so it’s now all online, you know, we’ve got to do it, so. It’s been 20 years, no progress in press freedom, if anything, far less press freedom than the very limited press freedom we had back then.
Jeff: Yah, yah, yah. Really well summed up and all true, absolutely all true.
Yoichi: So I’ll try to crank it out when I get back and get my head together.
Jeff: Yoichi Shimatsu and Jeff Rense together again.
Yoichi: Yah we were the pioneers and those days it was so hectic, putting together [Jeff indicates agreement] we couldn’t even communicate, it was hard just to get to the next story, I mean those were the real pioneering days and we had all kinds of, you know, you have formatting problems, we had guys trying to shut us down even early then, we had … and just getting people to write the news for us, you know, pick up the news, was not easy, because not everything was online like it is today, you know, we had to actually transcribe things, I know you did, you transcribed a lot of stuff, you know, just by hand.
Jeff: Yoichi, it’s so easy today, that’s why there’s so damn many websites, that is just all that they do is just take stuff from somebody else and put a new title on it and run it around, and there’s so many government operations, and it’s just sickening.
Yoich: Well there’s many claimants and contenders, there’s many fakes, there’s many troll sites, there’s many dis-info sites but I do think your web site remains the world champion in this area of Internet news, you know, the world champion [Jeff: Thank you] in providing truthful news to people without agenda, without deception, without any of that stuff going on, you know, so it’s been a 20 year run, and I know you started earlier than that, but I’m just saying that about 1995 was when the world finally started to realize… Again I said, by the end of 95 the big advertising agencies were starting to realize that they had to take us seriously, yah that they had to take us seriously, that this is the real media. People were scoffing, you know, at the beginning of 95 people were scoffing at online, you had no chance with the new media, but by the end of 95, 95 was the knockout year, we were breaking huge stories, that they couldn’t keep up with, and also they had to put the lid on us, they realized unless they put advertising into the online press there was no way they could control the online press, you got that, that’s why Dentsu had to barge in, they had to stop our flow of Om Shin Rikio stories, the truth, that it was run by politicians, that it was an artificial sect, that it was a manufactured sect, that it wasn’t exactly Sarin that was used, in fact it was a decoy program. We exposed so much. It was international. They had ties to Yeltsin’s national security advisor, that you know they had massive ties to the Japanese government including Shinzō Abe's father, and as I was moving on to get Shinzō Abe, we were finding out about his activities working with the Om Shin Rikio in Kobe and in New York City, at the (Jethro?) office there, that’s when they advertised, he, Dentsu provided publicity for him, tried to hire a lot of foreigners to front for him, that he’s a nice guy and all, that’s when they shut us down, he was their last young champion because his father was dead, we could not nail his father, he was dead, you know, we couldn’t put him in prison, otherwise he would surely be in prison. Shinzō Abe , his whole thing would have been discredited. We were uncovering that after the big scientist (Bori ?) was assassinated to protect Shinzō Abe, okay? (Hydale Bori?) was assassinated because he was going to tell us everything because he worked for Shinzō Abe at Kobe Steel, that was his first job doing weapons technology there at Kobe Steel, okay, in Kobe? And that’s where this Hayakawa the weapons dealer was also active, the guy who went to North Korea 20 times to deliver Sarin to North Korea, Sarin gas.
Jeff: It doesn’t matter where you are, Yoichi, they kill people. They kill people.
Yoichi: They silence, they kill, they kill their own people, the insiders, they’ve got to get rid of them.
Jeff: Five of the senior Ukraine Kiev politicians have recently committed suicide. I don’t know if you saw that or not.
Yoichi: Not surprising. This is that 250 to 400 billion dollar debt, you know, that Ukraine has, it has an un-payable debt, money has gone down rat holes, okay, and then the connections to Toshiba Westinghouse, this nuclear accident out there, you know, the world’s third largest nuclear plant, which you know is in danger, I mean this is right south of Chernobyl, there will not be any Ukraine left if they keep going on with these illegal Mox fuel tests, you know, the country is on the verge of national extinction, and this has nothing to do with Russia.
Jeff: Russia has nothing to do with it, no nothing to do with it.
Yoichi: If you guys don’t get into the, they’re not going to endanger Russia and the rest of Russia because you idiots are trying to install Mox fuel rods and they’re talking about a massive Mox fuel plant and you’re planning to put Fukushima destroyed fuel rods, melted down rods, into Ukraine, you’re not gonna turn Eastern Europe into a dead zone and Russia into as dead zone and so I think there’s an underlying subtext to this whole thing, no one’s talking about cause Russia’s not going to broadcast about their nuclear industry now, But they obviously are very , they know the situation, you know, and right now I’ve heard that they’re reverse … you know what’s amazing is these guys who they’re responsible for the reactor three explosion at Fukushima four years ago, okay, they’re responsible for this, right now do you know what they are doing, they’re reverse engineering the Russian nuclear plant in Ukraine! They’re reverse engineering, so they get to you know, what can we use here, how cheaply can we convert this stuff to a Mox plant, I mean and most of these plants are way beyond their, they have a 40 year, okay, 40 year life time. And they don’t know how to run these things, they don’t know their history. They’re actually taking some of these reactors apart to figure out how they work and how they can convert them to Mox fuel… You know, I mean …
Jeff: Insane, completely insane.
Yoichi: Exactly, I mean this is beyond, I mean this is not engineering, this is madness, this is technological….this is, you know… so concerns, deep concerns about a nuclear industry, you know you would think people in Japan notice, TV viewers, that all these nuclear experts that come out they have this strange gaze in their eyes, they talk funny, they slur, you know their neckties are a little bit off, their eyes, in other words it effects your brain, radiation effects your brain.
Jeff: Yah it kinda catches up with you folks.
Yoichi: Yah we can’t understand what these people are, these is like the play (Morxxxxd ?) or that play Eliza Gray, the psychotics have taken, the homicidal psychotics have taken over the insane asylum, okay, and the doctors are in jail, okay?
Jeff: You got it.You got it.
Yoichi: And we’re the doctors, here. We’re on the fringe, we’re outside, they’re trying to keep us under lock and key and we’re trying to break out and warn the world, you know, it’s not going to be contained inside the insane asylum called the nuclear industry, these guys are going to kill everybody on the planet, and to save themselves they’ll do it, they believe so much in themselves…
Jeff: We are right now, right this minute Yoichi we are closer to mass extinction on this planet, given Kiev nuclear war potential, given all those aging rotten nuclear reactors, all these plants, we are, we are on borrowed time, I’ve said it before…
Yoichi: We’re not about to see it. We’ve got one step right into the extinction event with Fukushima,
Jeff: Yah, one foot is in it, yup…
Yoichi: And the other foot is trying to step into that zone of absolute death for everything on this planet, you know, and starting over again with bacteria, well you know, what’s really weird is life won’t start all over again cause what’s happening in the Japan and Philippine trench is that the radio (nucleotides?) there are working their way down, it’s going to kill the life which is in those volcanic vents, where life began, you know, theoretically, whatever. There will not be …life will not …
Jeff: Crucial point, absolutely. Yes yes. And nobody’s talking about this. What happened to people like Arnie Gundersen, did they all get talked to?
Yoichi: Okay I got to give credit to Arnie, at least he’s admitting there was some sort of nuclear reaction inside the reactors, there wasn’t a hydrogen gas explosion, [Jeff: he has done that] that can blow the cap off of the reactor, so that is a step forward for him, so you know I should not, yah I appreciate even though people reluctantly don’t want to admit that you know there’s a fusion fission reaction going on inside of a damaged reactor, at least taking that step begins to open the door to what…
Jeff: I just wish these people would speak out, I just wish they would stand up and tell it like it is, they hint and they hum and they haw.
Yoichi: Yah I know I wish they would just do it, and it came late, three years after, I mean we were talking about this within 30 days of this event if I recall, you know, that there was a nuclear mushroom cloud [Jeff: yes we were, absolutely we were], a mushroom cloud, the possibility of some sort of a nuclear reaction of a type that we had not yet seen yet, now we understand it more, as a fusion reaction of tritium and deuterium which are forms of hydrogen, which then triggered the little particles of melted down plutonium, had that occurred at a slightly larger scale not inside the venting areas where the escaped gas would go but in the bubbling mix of the reactors we would have seen 15 reactors along the Pacific coast have a chain reaction, all blow up, 90 tonnes of fissile material in each, and also the reactor aboard the Ronald Reagan, USS Ronald Reagan, carrier Ronald Reagan and George Washington would have also blown up, okay? Consider that folks, 15 reactors plus reactors aboard two nuclear aircraft carriers, the neutron bombardment, every power plant, every car, everything that runs, every computer, all across northern Japan, and Tokyo area, shut down, no electronics at all, no light, no power, and Naoto Kan said on March 12th he was ready within a two hour notice to sign an executive order to evacuate 50 million people out of that area. [Jeff: He was?] Yes he was, he said this in San Diego, right before the San Onofre, [Jeff: He should have, I remember when he was here] he couldn’t say it in Japan, the supervisors there, yah, he said this stuff, and that is a scenario we face in the next nuclear disaster to come, okay, this is going to happen., okay, this is inevitable because we know the science now and in a steam reactor that will happen, a pressurized steam reactor, we have boiling water reactors so the venting there’s a lot less pressure, the steam reactor is like a nuclear bomb, inside there.
Jeff: What’s really amazing is that the United States Navy and the Pentagon continue to play games, they’ve lost a super carrier, a nuclear powered super carrier, and they spent 18 months trying to clean it, rehabilitate it, and they’ve failed. It’s gone. It might just as well
Yoichi: It’s a piece of radioactive steel junk sitting in San Diego Bay there, and it shouldn’t even sit there, because it is, you know, it is irradiating the port…
Jeff: They should take it out in the middle of the ocean and sink it.
Yoichi: Yah sink it. Yah they should sink it. All the electronics were gone but what really got the crew is that the desalination system, okay they were, when they realized there was airborne radiation and weapons grade plutonium in the air, massive amounts, they ran, they thought that someone had done a nuclear strike against Fukushima, little did they know there’s weapons production, plutonium enrichment, going on in that whole area, they ran, but they didn’t realize then that the sea was that contaminated, they continued to use the desalination system and as a result the crew got entirely irradiated, in their drinking water, and in their showers, and in the water used, a lot of that food aboard is dehydrated food, you know, reconstitute the food, and all that, to cook the food, the soups and all, they had so much radiation in there, and that’s why so many sailors, so many more than (
) are now coming down, they’re coming down with , you know terrible, ah, terrible cancers,
Jeff: Oh they’re dying; Five hundred at least.
Yoichi: The female sailors, what’s happening to them, especially the ones who have gotten pregnant is unspeakable, we don’t even want to, you know, we can’t even publish or print, you know, print the stuff, no one dares show photos of the embryo…
Jeff: No one dares tell the truth
Yoichi: Which the Hong Kong doctors I wrote to in Hong Kong said, do not look human, they do not look human.
Jeff: God. Okay, we’re going to take a break now, we’re going to say good night to you on this particular visit, you’ve got things to do I guess, we got Dana Durnford standing by, Yoichi, I salute you, my friend, thank you, four years …
Yoichi: And best wishes to you and Dana on this coming anniversary of this fourth year after the Fukushima meltdown.
Jeff: Take care of yourself. Talk to you next time.
Yoichi: All right. Thank you very much.
Jeff: Good night. The true, true hero of our times. All right we’ll be back.
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Jeff: Okay, and we’re going to go up this half hour, somewhere along the wilds of the coast of British Columbia to talk to another remarkable man who has put his life on the line over and over again to try to bring the truth about what’s happening to our west coast whether you be Canadian or American, and that the government will not tell us under any circumstance, at least not yet. Dana Durnford, who has his own website, thenuclearproctologist.org , see, I got that right didn’t I Dana?
Dana: Yes, that’s correct, yes.
Jeff: God, I got it. How are you!?
Dana: Ha it’s been a rough ride. Good splashing machine, she’s [unclear – Alda Gay?], I’ve got a good story for everyone though, I think, you know how I’ve been, I don’t know why either but I’ve been adamant that I have to go the Queen Charlottes, for the last 13 weeks that I’ve been at the gulf….
Jeff: Yah, something’s been driving you, I don’t know what it is
Dana: In the past though, and I didn’t know what it was, I think I understand and it’s my opinion only, but down the coastline of Canada, the mainline side folks, and we found stars and less than a hundred species, total, throughout the entire coastline, out of …
Jeff: Out of 6500 that ought to be there.
Dana: The visible ones and another 5500 or so of invertebrates without backbones [unclear] … and so it’s been really perplexing, birds were missing, insects were missing in the last summer and so I get to the Queen Charlottes and I’ve been over here and I never missed a day, it’s been quite amazing, still got a long way to go, but what I discovered over here was extraordinary, and I couldn’t wrap my mind around it for the first few days what was going on. I was finding the same species only, nothing new, that I had already found along the coastline of Canada, and the Queen Charlottes, folks, is 50 miles off of, islands, off the coastline of Canada. It’s an archipelago, it’s 350 kilometers long, and all virgin territory. [Jeff: gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous] It’s stunning! It’s unbelievable, there’s no industry in the area, just two little small, no three little tiny communities, and so I get up here and we’re out in the wilds a hundred miles from Queen Charlotte City, where I am through, right now, and it struck me I was finding the same species but I was finding them in one sense if you want to call it that way, plentiful, in these days, and it had dawned on me that the Charlottes had done pretty good but they had lost all the other species but the Charlottes is producing all the babies for the coastline of Canada. That’s what it appears to me. There’s only seven star fish that we found on the coastline of Canada but we find seven starfish out here and plenty of them, now the divers a couple of days ago found starfish legs and there was two of them and they were horrified, because, and rightly so, but I mean the whole sea floor was covered in, in ah star fish legs, a lot of leather starfish, in particular, and just the legs, didn’t find the bodies, just the legs everywhere, and they’re pretty convinced that it’s radiation, and they’ve been following it a little bit, and so like I’m pretty sure but I won’t know ‘til the whole trip is over to prove that theory, I think we can, easily, like I’ve got 2200 pictures today, got harassed by a bunch of teenage sea lions today, about 12 or 14 of it, got some really good video of them coming right at me, stood up in the water, just like the most amazing thing imaginable, my dog ...
Jeff: That’s not normal behavior is it?
Dana: No I’ve never seen that before, these were Steller's teenagers, what they call teenagers I guess. But the species out on the coastline where we’re based at (Skin Cuddle?) that was absent of most of the species but you were finding the two species in particular of Starfish and plenty of them for most of it, and, but it really does confirm it, what we’re finding on the coastline of Canada and just little tiny bits here and little tiny bits there, where it’s plentiful out here and the seeds would come right into that coastline. That’s pretty well why we’re finding those particular species so far as this position as a wash down from the mountains, at the west side of the Rocky Mountains everything comes towards the Pacific Ocean and like after heavy rains it could take two weeks for all this stuff to make its way down to the coastline. [Jeff: Right] And that would make sense, that all got wiped out, but the Queen Charlottes managed to survive cause it’s isolated, and when it washed off it diluted, not diluted, I guess that’s the term we use, but it, it was ‘whisked’ away. There was still major damage with all the species are missing, except for the same species that we find there once again, we see how in this entire area the divers did find on the sea floor, of a, of a, star fish legs. But that is quite interesting to see that. You know where it appeared healthy for those species only, for all those other species, today there’s no Whelks to be found, anywhere, there’s no snails to be found anywhere whatsoever, I couldn’t even find one. [Jeff: Gone] Whelks snail are extraordinarily popular, normally you would find millions and millions and millions on each beech and on the rocks and all the mussels were missing and the algae, there’s 20 species of algae, roughly, and none of them, a lot of them look’s like they’re petrified, but they all look really, really bad, they look really unhealthy, and once again the rocks are bare everywhere else. And so I think this might end up being what happened here, was, the coastline got wiped out of its original disposition, this stuff was sticking to the rocks, nothing can grow on the rock, and British Columbia, Queen Charlotte Islands is seeding the coastline of Canada., because the star fish varieties in particular we’re talking about are indigenous to British Columbia, and where are they coming from? Well the Queen Charlottes are 350 miles long, their seed are getting washed through the inlets the islands the fjords, 26000 islands up here and this why I was finding the piddling that we find and folks don’t understand in that entire day of hunting at the low tide zone I could put everything I found in the back of a pickup truck, and that, you should be able to do that on any beach, let alone the entire, you know mile after mile after mile, ah we’re coming to an anniversary of the fourth year, I guess you could call it that.
Jeff: Yah. Today is the beginning of the end.
Dana: I think as sign of good faith the nuclear industry should hang a whole bunch of TEPCO from poles to just give us a sign of good faith, is it just me or
Jeff: I don’t think you’d have a lot of people arguing about that.
Dana: I think, you know what, I don’t like to say stuff like that. Even I would like to hang onto the rope, and feel them kicking.
Jeff: Look how many people they’ve killed, look how many species, look how much sea life, every animal, every animal… Go ahead.
Dana: Yah I got no remorse for these people, I totally I totally
Jeff: Criminal bastards, that’s all they are, [Dana: Thank you] they are the worst. Okay stand by a minute, we’ll come right back with Dana Durnford.
Okay and we’re back with Dana Durnford, nuclearproctologist.org, on the website, and I hope you can get there to that website on the Internet and bookmark it and follow his work. When he gets back, eventually, he’s going to have a year’s worth of work to collate and put out, and I’m hoping that he will be able to produce a documentary about this, none of this bs from the government. They just cannot be allowed to get away with this. All right so where are you right now tonight?
Dana: I just pulled in here to Queen Charlotte City, that’s the central of the island, [Jeff: Big town, big town!] Yah kind of I guess, I think we have 18 hundred people or something, [Jeff: Oh my, yah] It is a big town for this coastline, there’s not many up here. It’s been a washing machine, extremely tough, been a grind, pounding grind, I just had to grind seven hours to get to port, and it’s expensive, it’s 500 bucks to fuel up, and then grub is ridiculously expensive cause you…
Jeff: Why so hard to get to port. Are you fighting against the elements?
Dana: Yah, the ocean up here is really something, ah, but that, that boat I got, that’s the coastguard zodiac, I mean if I was out there in a 80 foot boat and it sank, that’s the boat they would send out to get me. It’s the same boat, it couldn’t really, you can’t really sink it, and then I got another zodiac on the roof of that thing, and so even if I tried to tip over I couldn’t tip over cause I got that pinned on top of the roof. [Jeff: Ah, very smart] I was up to the hot springs today, but they had an earthquake there last year or the year before, somewhere over the last three years, and it’s drained, and nobody goes there any more, but if you go hunting along on the shoreline you’ll find the steam coming up, and you can find big pools of hot water there, just, I take a jug and just dip it up and pour it over myself. It’s really, … I just, had to come to port anyway, just to come to a stop. Jeff, I mean, it’s 13 weeks now non-stop, I just had to come and tie up to a wharf and I knew there was a little spot, where the waves can’t get at you, cause we need a couple of days sleep tied onto a wharf where I don’t have to think about it. And then I can’t wait to get back out, so don’t get me wrong, I need to do this. This is really tiring and we need to see the rest, the next chunk will be the west side when I head back out and by then, you know, I’ll be coming down the inside passage. Today I seen a, now I guess folks I haven’t seen a flock, a real flock of birds , today I didn’t really see a flock of birds, but there was a flock of birds probably 500 birds, on the way back, and there was around 50 eagles, that’s the most eagles I’ve seen at any given time since August, it’s four, to see 50 eagles was really impressive, [Jeff: A beautiful sight, good for you] That was a spectacular event. I stopped and got pictures of it. And it looked like they were feeding and this is something we haven’t seen along the entire coastline. We should see that every mile. And I covered, a few weeks back, I covered over 700 nautical miles and never seen a single flock and there should have seen 700 flocks or more if not five times that, because that’s how this coastline used to be, always, no matter where you went, so all of that is missing, there’s just a handful of any species out of 160 odd migratory and 148 residential, there’s only a handful throughout the entire coastline and you’re only finding them in tiny groups so we’re in a lot of trouble and this industry, you know, may be the best thing that can happen to us if Abe starts up a nuclear power plant, I think that will set the entire planet off to a big fireworks, if if, and they’re going to do it, they’re threatening the day, they’re (posturing ?) all the time, I think that’s what will happen, this planet is going through a rough, it just needs something to set it off. Like my information is not really out there, in the context, at all, and outside yourself pushing it out there all the time, it’s not really being pushed out there, and at some point, the only person except for yourself, and you really truly are pushing, you haven’t stopped pushing, you guys do a fantastic job of it, and one of a very few out there that actually like yourself, for some reason, how hard is it Jeff to come out and say what they’re doing? Is it that hard, eh? You do it all the time,
Jeff: I’m very suspicious of some of these people, others are just lazy, look I sit at a desk. You put your life on the line, you’re out on the water, so I’m glad to be a part of, a small part of what you’re doing. And do whatever I can…
Dana: A huge part of it. A huge part.
Jeff: You are, you are literally world famous, for what you’re doing, [Dana: Maybe one day] well I’m sure a lot of people think
Dana: It’s not me, it’s the information.
Jeff: I understand. You know we’re not in it for ourselves, we know that.
Dana: It’s not, no, it’s irrelevant, it really truly is I want to finish the trip and put together the presentation, put together an actual true documentary, and we certainly got the information…
Jeff: Dana, you can travel all over the United States and Canada, to colleges and put on your presentation.
Dana: And I will too
Jeff: I’ll help you promote that all day long.
Dana: Yah thank you my friend, like I say this is, this has turned into what it is because we’ve got no option, it’s not like we want to do something like this, it’s not because this was a fantasy, yah go out and do this, there’s no fun in what I do, it’s the most boring thing imaginable, the beaches are empty, it’s just unbelievably boring all day, and it’s so stressful, to raise that money, so stressful to keep the operation afloat, the people needing working all the time, so stressful at night time, just trying to come to a stop and have a meal and get some sleep and not drag anchor all night wrong, and have the waves pound you all day and all night, relentless, and not to the point where you have to take off work to escape it and have a couple of days break, but the urgency of it is not, my brain will not let me stop it until we complete it, because it has to get done and nobody else is going to do it. And if we don’t get the job done we’ll regret that for ever. And right now we have succeeded in so many aspects of it. We have brought it together right around this entire planet to pull this off, and once again it’s not just me, I always chew that when I look around me it’s everybody that contributed constantly, that make it happen to keep it going, and that’s the only way, it just barely keeps itself afloat and going the entire time. I’m always afraid I’m not going to have enough when I get in the bank to say something.
Jeff: Yah, yah.Well, you’ve got some, no you have some wonderful, truly wonderful people backing you and , backing, doing, it’s a handful of people, doing what the world should be obsessed and worried about, but they’re just not…
Dana: That’s true. Something we can be proud of, that’s for sure. I’m not gonna let them down, this is all business, 100% business, dedication, you see, I don’t miss a day, but if I’m there I’m going to go no matter how I feel. I’m up every morning at 5 o’clock, waiting for that sun to come up, steaming towards the islands, it’s an amazing sunset, sunrise, but I can’t wait to get that data, I’m afraid that I’m not gonna get it, so I’m always anxious to wake up early and I cannot, it’s impossible to sleep past 6 o’clock, it can’t be done…
Jeff: You have your dog with you, right?
Dana: I have my puppy with me. That keeps me busy, I take her into the beach, and I cook her each meal, and really, I looks at her and she’s 13 odd years old and I lifts her in and out of the boat each time, so …
Jeff: What an amazing dog.
Dana: She went after the sea lions, and I was proud of her, was proud of her, I got it on video, I can’t wait to pick it up, there’s no Internet up here, there’s no Internet, So, I don’t know, I don’t know…hotel room [unclear]
Jeff: Dana, have you seen many whales at all?
Dana: Well we did actually, there is a bunch of whales out there in (Skin Cuddle?) and now I’m not sure what kind of whales they are, I got quite a lot of pictures, and ah they were slapping their tail, there was, some of the divers up there were saying that they were Mink whales but they don’t look like Mink whales, they too big, they’re just huge things, 50-60 feet at least, but there’s a lot of …I got jumped by the coast guard this morning and it will be a long time until they jump anybody on the beach again, they got the get off the coast line routine, and I gave in. He said oh you know I heard they were checking for radiation. I said “Radiation! Look around you!” I told him. I said where’s all the species too? You guys are not doing your job. Here you chased me right up to the beach…
Jeff: What do you mean he chased you? He chased you?
Dana: I was on the beach, I have my big boat parked and anchored off and I had the little zodiac on the beach, but they came all the way into the beach just to yell out and ask me what I was up to. So I told him, I told him, they went looking at the boat, nuclear proctologist on it, I said I’m checking for damage from the radiation fallout Japan and he said you finding any, I said “Everything is missing!” I said “Are you blind?!” I named out the species to him and I think I scared the daylights out of him cause they went away but I wasn’t, I never went easy on him, I was pretty angry, don’t know where that came from. Yah I don’t know where it came from but I was angry at, [Jeff: from your soul is where it came from] I was heartbroken, I was on this beach after beach after beach and this little group of islands this morning, it’s blowing really hard, and I’m got up tight to an island, and I went to the island and got up on the beach cause you couldn’t do anything else, and it’s stunning that I couldn’t find anything in the microscopic world or the small world and so we made the trip tonight, and the phone made it, good stuff folks, go ahead Jeff, thank you my friend,
Jeff: Bless you take care, talk to you next week, all righty, you be well,
Jeff: Dana Durnford, and he is one remarkable brave man. nuclearproctologist.org, check it out, and when he’s done he’s going to have one hell of a documentary, he can go around the colleges and I hope you’ll bring him to your town, all you got to do is pay his transportation, he’ll put on an event you will not forget I guarantee it. All right, that’s it for Monday, we are done, back tomorrow, have a good day, and you take care, thanks so much for being here. You are appreciated.
Transcript of Jeff Rense, March 16th, 2015, interview of Dana Durnford on Rense Radio on weekly, Monday Fukushima Report
Jeff Rense: Okay, welcome back, hour number three, and it’s time to do our weekly update on the greatest calamity, the greatest catastrophe, the greatest disaster. It’s an extinction level event, not necessarily 100%, but it is an extinction level event. It is called Fukushima. It has so far surpassed Chernobyl’s disaster dynamics that it’s, ah, well it’s hard to wrap your mind around it. All I can do is ask you to keep looking at the top center column at Rense.com. We’re bringing you the most relevant material we can, for four years now, and it continues to get worse. I’m not sure if we have Yoichi Shimatsu on line yet, Yoichi are you there yet? … Not yet. We’re trying to get him. He’s on ah, a number in Thailand, let’s hope that Mr. Dana Durnford is there, our special guest, who god knows where he is, where are you?
Dana: Hi Jeff, yes, I’m back in Queen Charlotte City.
Jeff: Well good for you.
Dana: Yah. Been a rough ride. Today was a very rough one, so both of the boat motors went down on me today, in rough water, [Jeff: Well okay] But I had an interview at the local newspaper today, and, I touched base on that for a quick sec, and hour and a half interview, and the reporter actually asked all the right questions all the way through, so I don’t know, this could be a [Jeff: was he on drugs of some kind?] (Dana laughs) No, I done a presentation, it was a her, I done a presentation for her, very open minded, and they actually, they actually covered some Fukushima stuff here but they kept referring to Jay Cullen in their literature [Jeff: Oh please!] Yah, and so I [Jeff: Why did he get in, how did he worm his way in there? To their consciousness?] Yah I know. Isn’t that something! And nobody ….
Jeff: They must focus on those people and deluge them with his stuff because they’re on the cutting edge, the front edge of the damage curve. They must …]
Dana: Right Yah. That’s exactly what’s going on. He has a lot of influence in the media throughout British Columbia. Apparently he is the spokesperson for Canada, and Canada has 25 nuclear reactors, so I guess we don’t have any nuclear scientists, for them to refer to, that he’s a marine chemist, and he’s actually wrote no papers whatsoever on Fukushima, and he’s wrote no papers on …
Jeff: No No, we know what he is, we know who he is, ah, what’s the name of the site that features him a lot, do you remember? I can’t remember.
Dana: Yah I can’t remember. Fukushima Informed [Jeff: Something like that] Cullen’s lab is another one, I covered him in a video I put out yesterday
Jeff: Okay, spell his last name for us. Jay …?
Dana: C-u-l-l-e-n
Jeff: Jay Cullen. Just remember that name and when you see that name tread carefully. [Dana: run] Or run. Yes.
Dana: What he does he keeps saying over and over there’s 600 times more natural radiation in a say, in a tuna than there is nuclides from Japan and so he implies… [Jeff: (exasperated) oh come on!] that the natural one is somehow equated with that. But also, he just keeps doing that the whole way through: The ocean has a 1000 times more natural radiation than the radiation from Fukushima. And so he says a lot of those over and over and over everywhere he goes and that it’s better now…
Jeff: Yah, it starts to sink in, unfortunately.
Dana: It does. And so people don’t know how, how to …So this is argument you have with people, they talk about the natural radiation is so much more there. And I say well that’s not going to mutate a fruit fly but a single atom from Japan will mutate a fruit fly and so which one is actually gonna be bad for you? I try everything eventually with people to see what will work with them, and sometimes that’ll help. What’s going on is, I don’t know why but, he is the guy everyone is running to for, ah, the lie. And so they just regurgitate that lie as you know so well. And then, that’s what’s confusing everybody. I do think though, that the Queen Charlotte Islands, the people up here, are the people, I think this is where Canada is going to make its stand. So I really have a strong feeling about that….
Jeff: Well they’re either going to make a stand there or they’re going to be all deserted, empty pieces of geography, there won’t be anything there at all. Nothing.
Dana: But these people are switched on.
Jeff: Okay. The people are switched on. Wonderful! Ah, what are they going to do?
Dana: Well that’s the whole point, they needed someone like me or us to come by and actually get them on that right direction. That’s how I feel about it, so we still got a ways to go, we still got five or six weeks to go, but at the end of that five or six weeks I do have a feeling this is where the push is going to come out of Canada back. I do, I do feel these people are in a position where they can leverage, pick out they’re in this unique spot, and so far they’ve been able to maintain their lifestyle separate off the rest of Canada and they’re a very unique spot, and, but they’re a great laidback people, what you do here is you put your hand up to anybody that’s coming by and they’ll stop and give you a ride. That’s what I do. Yah, so I put my hand up and on comes a stranger and picks me up
[Jeff: And then they get an ear and a half full, boy, yah]
Dana: Yup, then they make the mistake, they don’t have to, but everybody asks you, what are you doing? And everybody is very interested in that, but then they wait for you and then they bring you back, and
Jeff: No kidding?! Really, that’s, that’s downright human behavior, that’s …
Dana: Yah, it is, but it’s pretty unique and so today was like a hellish day, I went into the west side of a, this is first trip out there, I made an attempt yesterday just to sound out the passage, cause it’s a very, very long tight passage, very fast currents coming across, pretty dangerous to scoot through it, and both of my engines went down on me when I got into the rough water, just as, I was about four nautical miles…
Jeff: Okay, I have to ask you the obvious question. What the hell do you do then?
Dana: What the hell do you do then? It’s yah time to panic, at that stage, for sure, Jeff. I was lucky enough to get the rpms enough to get me back, just barely enough.
Jeff: So just putt, putt, putt, putt, and … there was a fuel problem?
Dana: Well, no, I don’t know, I’m gonna have to pull the boat out of the water, and do the service up …
Jeff: No, you’re not away from the boat so nobody can mess with it and sabotage it, right?
Dana: No I was away from the boat. Yah, I’ve been really sick for the last week here, and so I’m into the hotel as much as I can, and that could have definitely could have been happening too. I’ll have it in tomorrow into the shop I hope and get it on the machine and have a look at it. They’re not gonna stop me cause I’ll just find another engine
Jeff: Are these outboards or one in and one out?
Dana: Yup, no these are outboards and they had been working just unbelievably gorgeous right up til this morning when I went down and got on the boat and went out. It was working fine for a little bit on the way out, didn’t know, wasn’t going fast or nothing, you know, I was waiting for the tide to get high enough to shoot through the back way. You have to wait for a high tide to get through the back door, [Jeff: I see] and I’m just doing like small steps out into that little world, and the shoreline is naked on the west side, on top of that is worst than what was down east on the Queen Charlottes. At least you found a little tiny bit down there, it was naked out here. Ah but then, yah, no, then it all went to hell in the worst possible place, really dangerous spot, and really truly had me worried, I was ready to abandon the boat at one stage there, and get into the small zodiac and make a run for the shore. And start gathering up my… Yah it was really dangerous.
Jeff: If you do that then the big boat maybe goes away.
Dana: Yah, oh yah, well that’s all you can do I guess, you know there’s not much I can do in that sea...
Jeff: We don’t want you to go away so … But that’s scary stuff.
Dana: Very, very scary stuff and you don’t expect boat engines to go down on you, that’s the idea, and the boat, just before then…Yah the boat at the one time like that, so when the first one went down I had the second one in the water and got her wind up, she started up but she wouldn’t go into gear , but she went into reverse, but it wouldn’t go into forward, and so that’s not powerful enough to hold you off a rock pile in those big sea that are whipping in
Jeff: That’s pretty damn weird, you know, that could have been 86, that’s not good.
Dana: Yah, absolutely. But tomorrow now [Jeff: Ah jeez!] I had to do a local interview for an hour and a half when I got back so it was surreal coming off the ocean and sit there and go through a presentation and just forget about this morning and, ha, ha, ha, it really was … and I came back to the hotel room and crashed like a rock and then I was approached. Two people contacted me, wanted to have a quick talk with me, they heard about me, these were people who had done studies up on this coastline and they were telling me they can’t trust the media at all, blah, blah, blah, blah. But what they were doing, one of them in fact was trying to imply that it was pollution from tourist boats and everything all that was causing the damage, and I said “What?! Along the entire coastline of British Columbia?!” And so that was a really interesting conversation. You know you’re gonna run into some of that stuff. Ah but I managed to at least try to educate them a bit better and I think I might have but I don’t know about that one, and the other one was, I think, was very legitimate, and the problem is that, you know, that’s what we need is a community to make a stand, more so than me to make, cause we’re making a stand. If we can get a community to actually push back they got nowhere to hide; they can’t come after a community. But they can come after me, they can come after you, can come after Yoichi, and Richard Wilcox. I’ve been subscribed to his emails. He’s really finding some really good stories I’ve noticed in this last three, four weeks that I’ve been subscribed to him. Really happy about that. For anybody who’s not familiar he’s been on your show a number of times, and a very good source. Really impressed. He’s really impressive
Jeff: Oh yah. Writes everything. Well he’s a scholar, and he really goes after this in a really intelligent way. [Dana: Like Yoshi, Yoichi] Oh yah.
Dana: I always feel bad cause I can’t pronounce his name, and every time you say his name like my ears almost grow onto the phone when I’m trying to catch how you …[Jeff: Well, it’s, it’s, his friends call him Yoshi. It’s okay.] Right. But I always feel that it’s better if I can learn his name properly. [Jeff: Yo-each-ee]
Dana: Yo-each-ee. And for some reason my brain goes [Jeff: It’s Shim-at-soo] And I can’t say that either. Shimatsoo. [Jeff: Shim-at-soo, Shim-at-soo] Sure. I can’t even pronounce something right now. My throat is raw. Just totally raw.
Jeff: What have you had? A cold?
Dana: Yah I got a bad flu, really knocked me down, [Jeff: Oh, no!] used all kinds of anti-septics for my throat and stuff, just to be able to talk. And so that’s okay too. It’s just part of the whole deal…
Jeff: Dana, this is not good. I don’t like this, you’re sick, now the engines both going out, I don’t like that at all,
Dana: No, that’s not a good feeling, is it? No that’s, something’s really overheating my brain.
Jeff: No, something, no, no, no, no. I don’t know, I don’t know, I don’t know…
Dana: No I don’t know either. It’s definitely something going on; anyways, all hitting me at the one time. That was, that definitely could have took me out of the game today, right? That was really, that was a very rough; the worst possible spot that that could go down, that both engines gone down. Yah that didn’t, that was definitely.
Jeff: I don’t…What are the chances, come on. That’s …
Dana: And the other engine is brand new, and probably got 20 hours on it, [Jeff: Yah?] So ah, that one you don’t expect to go down.
Jeff: How many horse are these engines?
Dana: One is 90 horsepower, at four stroke, and the other one is a 9.9 kicker, and everything is set up properly, and anything was set up by me, and I’ve been using it, you know, regularly, for half an hour here, twenty minutes there. And so, I usually start it up in the morning before I take off, just to make sure it’s gonna run if I need it, and that’s actually, I do that every morning, before I take off, I dodge out for five or ten minutes with the little engine, and this morning I didn’t do that, this morning I come just across to the narrows and then you gotta pick your way through all the rock piles to get out that back door, and the flooding tide is just ferocious there, and you got nowhere to go, you’ve only got ten seconds on either side of you to correct the boat, and then you’re gonna…
Jeff: Oh no, no, no, no, no. This is ah, this is too scary, …you, you …, go ahead.
Dana: Go ahead. No, the point is, you know, when you’re in this doing what I’m doing, you can pick your places, and you can gain a sense of what’s around you, and the job you’re doing every day, and you forget about the other world that is looking at you or doesn’t like you, or would rather you give it up, because you’re caught up in your environment, you’re on your toes all day, and then you get funny stuff at the end of the day, that’s your chance to really let your brain come to a stop, and so you know normally I would have put that motor in the water, started it up, this morning I didn’t, so, and I don’t know if I would have noticed it or not, if it would have been an issue or not, but to have it happen when it happened really makes me suspect that they don’t want me to finish the Charlottes. And I can’t blame them. Because everybody has said. Oh you’ll find life there when you get to the West coast. That’s for sure. You’re gonna find there’s no way you’re not gonna find life there. I even hear this from the locals. You’ll find it out there, every day, once you get to the outside.
Jeff: The west coast of the islands?
Dana: Right.
Jeff: Yah but that’s the most dangerous far off shore location.
Dana: It is right. And but that’s where you’d expect to find the most life.
Jeff: Boy you would. But not where, that’s where the radiation comes in. They don’t get it.
Dana: No, exactly. They really truly don’t get it. But that reporter today did get wide-eyed every time that I made a statement about what we had found, the lack of what we had found. And is categorically writing it all down, and said, you know, these are things that I’ve never even heard before, we’ve never, I’ve never heard anybody talk about that before Dana, and like I said, all the pictures, not all of them, but the majority of pictures are up at the nuclear proctologist.org for starters, and they can go check it all out, and they can really get a handle on it, then I don’t think though, I do have that feeling inside of me, see I shouldn’t have , if that, those engines hadn’t broke down I wouldn’t have made it back for that interview, you know, there’s so many of these little things come together, and this local newspaper, [Jeff: Oh man!] has wrote some good stories, and has done some really, like they’ve mentioned how they’ve stopped drinking rainwater here, within two weeks of [Jeff: That’s … That’s number one. Yah.] Don’t drink your rainwater. They actually reported that and they went around and really told people who were collecting rainwater to cover up the rainwater they had and not to drink it. And cover up …
Jeff: I hate to say this but it’s not even fit for irrigating your gardens,
Dana: Right. No it’s not. No. No. And I mean an interesting thing is yesterday I went out at high tide and that high tide strip is really visible. The ocean comes right up to the rainforest here on the coastline and so it’s only like a foot, two foot, at the really highest tide, with a full moon, there will be like a 2 foot gap there. Now yesterday there was probably a four foot gap there and you still couldn’t see any kind of life whatsoever at that high tide line, and that ought to be the best part of it. That’s very telling, because that should be full of the fauna, the flora, the sea anemones and all kinds of little critters that live in that particular zone. That’s a very unique strip along British Columbia that is actually missing. And that was the big thing about getting out here to see, to really say, okay, look, it’s actually missing here too. Cause people won’t believe it until you actually show it to them. You actually basically have to go look and get pictures of it and actually show the people before they’ll ultimately believe you, I know that in my soul, and so that’s why I do the things I do because I know that if we don’t get that data you can’t have a lucid conversation with anybody, but if you got the data they ain’t got no wiggle room, and they’re gonna have to pay attention and they got no way of just disregarding what you say. I do run into people that have read Jay Cullen’s work and they told me radiation is everywhere routine, and, but once I explain to them that that radiation, is not gonna mutate a fruit fly, but that single atom from Fukushima will, that really changed them. They actually understand…
Jeff: That’s very nice to hear. That’s good. Obviously Jay Cullen is major damage control. They’re putting a lot of money behind this guy.
Dana: Yes absolutely. Now if he went out, now his samples, he just reported to the (unclear) the former Queen Charlottes last week that his latest samples that he received from here, at 600 dollars a pop, never had any radio-nuclides in them whatsoever, that got me thinking, yah that got me thinking, now if he was to say he found some radio-nuclides … [Jeff: That’d give him more credibility] Not only that but people would start getting samples and shipping it to him at 600 dollars a pop, [Jeff: They shouldn’t ship anything to him. They’ve got to find a truly independent lab] right, so but that’s what I’m saying, if he scammed, if he wanted to scam all he’s gotta do is say I found three radio-nuclides, they’d go ahead and make millions, so why isn’t he saying he found a few radio-nuclides, why does it have to be zero? Why does it always have to be zero?
Jeff: Well the answer is self evident.
Dana: Yah. But he’s not worried about the money, he doesn’t want the money, right? So that’s really interesting, because anybody out there, you think that they’d “yah I found one nuclide or two nuclides or two atoms or two atomic decays”, or something like that. And that would be enough to get people to get more samples, and they would make a fortune, I guarantee it, you can make a fortune, cause people, cause there is enough people out there that are looking for some body to tell the truth. And that’s what I feel with that media today, that if they tell the truth, if they actually do a good story, a proper story, and do some research, and they just disavow Jay Cullen, right on the spot, because that’s what I’m, that’s what I was gonna do today, I means I played the clips of Jay Cullen saying he doesn’t know of any melted reactors on the ocean, but if there was, then he’d have to revisit everything he said, so that’s a really interesting statement for somebody who is the spokesperson for Canada, who’s saying he doesn’t know, Nov. 20, 2013, on CBC, the biggest mainstream media in Canada, that he doesn’t know of any nuclear reactors, and that he implied and was saying that Japan never had a melted reactor but if they did it would be very serious indeed.
Jeff: He wouldn’t?! He didn’t say that?!
Dana: He actually said those words, yah. That’s his words, but now CBC took that clip down, so I called him out last, in 2014, and the story is still here, but they took the clip down. It’s a very interesting, what we’re seeing, starting to come together, and he’s gotta go, so that’s the bottom line, he’s gone as far as I’m concerned. When I go back after this trip is over, I’m gonna organize the biggest protest you’ve ever seen in Victoria, at the University, I’ll contact the lawyer and get all the permits, and I am going to out that man, he is got...
Jeff: Where is he? Where’s he…??
Dana: Victoria, British Columbia, Vancouver Island, in Victoria, BC, very unique place, very gorgeous place, and um, he’s gotta go, that’s the bottom line now, that’s enough of that,
Jeff: He needs to be exposed…Let’s …Come on Mr. Cullen. Who do you work for? Where do you get your checks? Who are you really tied to? How did you get started? I mean…You know, these people never are held accountable. They get away with…
Dana: I’m going to hold this guy accountable for what he’s done. And anybody that tries to replace him we’re gonna go after him with a vengeance from here on out. That’s, I can’t do it any more …
Jeff: You can’t. No you’re …
Dana: I have to get in their faces from now on. [Jeff: Yah.] And that means organizing protests, legal protests, within the law to make sure we’re protected, and we know where our boundaries are, and do what it takes to out these people immediately, and so when I get down within two weeks I’m coming after that guy, he’s done, and I want him prosecuted, So I’ll be going after him in any way possible…
Jeff: What’s your time frame? What’s the time frame?
Dana: My time frame for getting back [Jeff: When are you going to back?] Yah, I don’t know.
Jeff: It’s time. My friend it’s time. It’s time.
Dana: When am I gonna get back? I have to finish up here, gonna take another four or five weeks to finish this up here…
Jeff: Are you getting the kind of digital photography and video that you want, that it’s going to last you? This will do the job?
Dana: Right……I don’t have to redo anything, cause I’m getting 2000 pictures a day now, so I’m really on my game, [Jeff: Wow!] I’m finally getting good at it, right? So I’m going to get a lot of perfect pictures, and everything is, I think everything is finally coming together, unfortunately that was a rough one today…
Jeff: What you’ve done , Dana, is … ah come on, it’s more than a lot, it’s more than heroic, it’s superhuman, I mean that in the best sense of the word. I can’t imagine, I know you’re humble, but let me tell it, what you have done I can think of no other human who would probably do it. I just don’t, I don’t know of any.
Dana: I feel that way sometimes, that the only reason I’m doing this, cause I feel that it’s, I’m the one that is capable of always coming back…
Jeff: You’ve got the knowledge, you’ve got brilliance, you have the seamanship, but you’re also carrying round physical limitations that are enough to keep most people sitting in front of the fireplace and the TV 25 hours a day, so bless you,
Dana: I struggle all day for every thing [Jeff: I know you do] I definitely pay a price, and you know I had to find this all the time, that just, that’s got to be one of the craziest things imaginable, I don’t know how we do it, we’re just eke along, we just keep going, and just some way or another we manage just to keep going,
Jeff: Hold on Dana, just hold on for a second, Just hold on Dana. I gotta pause, I got to do this, we’ll come right back, with Dana Durnford, nuclearpreoctologist.org. Be right back.
Okay let’s get right back to Dana Durnford, very much appreciate that he’s sitting in for Yoishi Shimatsu whose phone again has been cut off, ah, in Thailand this time, we’re not able to get him, we’ve got three different numbers for him, so I don’t know, we hope to get him on next week. That’s all we can do. It’s a very evil and dark world out there, unfortunately, I hate to say it, but that’s, that’s the truth.
Okay now, you are gathering more friends, obviously. This news reporter you want to stay in touch with, have you had, this city, Queen Charlotte it is? [Dana: Yes.] Okay, how many people there? 5000?
Dana: I don’t know, I actually don’t know, less than 2000 I think, I can’t really be quoted on that one because, like you say, I haven’t actually looked at the numbers, but once again, this is the most coveted place in Canada, is Queen Charlotte Islands itself.
Jeff: What, why do you say the most coveted?
Dana: Well because people, this is what they call magic up here, you come out to have a magic experience , the islands are magic, and there’s hot springs all over the place, that are [Jeff: On the Islands? So these are, these are, these are - volcanic formations, then?] Right. And it’s just stunning, ah, beautiful landscape, but it’s something that people have gravitated towards, it’s a really dangerous place, and I’ve talked to a lot of the … there’s a lot of sailboats out this way, I’ve managed to talk to a lot of those people, and they had all told me that same thing, where that’s why they came here, just, it’s the magic, and I mean they’re expensive operations they got there, and today it’s magic and everybody agrees, this place, there’s something about it where people when you come here there’s a serenity that where you’re just able to escape the outside, shrug it off so as to speak, for most people, obviously I can’t, and the idea, once again, is, if this is also devastated, how can anybody ignore it, how can there not be some kind of, and we know how that works, we can’t ignore it, but the people of this country understand that if, I think so, they will understand it, that once they realize that this is devastated too, it’s time to do something, it’s time to, you know, to end the system that we got and come up with a system whatever that may be. Like if the scientists were to say that the government was to pass out organic seeds, when they came up with evacuation plan, and I know that sounds bizarre, to say that, that we have to evacuate the coastline of Canada, that we have to move East at least 200 miles inshore, we know that the radiation levels are …
Jeff: Okay now, would you… 200 miles inland, ah, does that suggest that, no okay, are there mountains, is there much geography along the coast, and yet you still feel like you need to go 200 miles inland ?
Dana: Right. And 200 miles inland, the only reason I’m saying that in particular cause that’s just a sign of good faith to go at least that far because the ocean liberates the salt, and insects up to 200 miles inland are acclimated to more salt, lots of academic studies, that are pretty sure about that, and so that particular [Jeff: Oh so that’s interesting] Yah that would get you away from the Pacific ongoing concentrations because the way the ocean current works, this stuff that’s coming over from Japan will get back to Japan in about 20 years now and then get back here in 20 years and blah blah blah. But it circulates here around British Columbia itself, it keeps circulating in the Arctic cold water circulation, and so it keeps concentrating at each stage, and the concentration, the stuff that’s coming over, becomes thicker and thicker. And that’s sticking to the shoreline so nothing can live on the shoreline, and like we were talking about the last interview, last time we had a chat, was that there was no mollusks on the coastline, and periwinkles, which is snails, very visible things all gone, and the …
Jeff: And the important tag line to that is that there aren’t even any debris laying around for these animals. They’ve been gone apparently for two three years. They’re just gone.
Dana: Yah at least. At least. Thank you. Sometimes I forget to mention that, that’s so important, it looks like they got wiped on the original disposition of the radioactive fallout from the . Cause the Jet Stream, a lot of people seem to imply that the Jet Stream is not real, in the academic community when it comes to Fukushima, [Jeff: Come on!] Yah they do. And of course they never take that into the equation, they always say the ocean will bring it all over in six to ten years. But the ocean current travels at five miles per hour,
Jeff: Some of it travels at 10 knots an hour. Now I don’t know how that equates to miles an hour, but it’s, it’s, uh…
Dana: Well even at 5 miles an hour, though, it gets here in 45 days, not counting the clouds, and …
Jeff: That’s right. That’s the, that’s the North Pacific Current where the primary vectoring and the velocity occurs. In that current.
Dana: Yes sir. Good stuff. And that comes straight over and it doesn’t stop coming straight over, that’s the prevailing current. [Jeff: It never stops!] Jet streams. Right. And that’s why they don’t see nothing. So much over there in one context because it gets whisked right off the coastline from Japan and out into the Pacific current and straight across to North America. California of course gets devastated constantly because that’s…
Jeff: And boy nobody talks about it! Nobody! We got 30, what was the last story? Let me see if I can find it. Hundreds, hundreds, oh okay, 35,000 sea lions and their pups washing up on shore, hundred of sea lions washed ashore in California, hundreds of California starving sea lions, the stories are endless. They figure 35,000 are dead …are dead.
Dana: On one island. Ten thousand dead sea lions on one California island. That’s unbelievable. That’s inconceivable. Nobody has ever even heard tell of something like that before. And if that doesn’t …
Jeff: And they say “unprecedented shocking die off! Scientists puzzled! Scientists, it’s a mystery!” It’s no mystery, no one’s puzzled! Come on! When they, when they speak amongst themselves they must, they just must…, come on, they’ve got to know,
Dana: They can’t get away with it much longer. I guarantee it. It’s going to come back in their faces is all I’m saying. I guess they can get away with it but the one’s that are lying this is gonna come back in their faces. This is the year that it’s all gonna get up in their faces. There’s no doubt about it. I’m feeling it in all the media I’m reading, I’m hearing it in all the interviews I hear and I’m hearing it now, they’re starting to come out of …
Jeff: I’m so sick of it. Four years of this Dana. Four years!
Dana: It has to stop. For someone like yourself in particular, who really is up in the media and very visible, it gotta be extraordinarily frustrating…
Jeff: Well, it’s, I think of our cancer cases here that are going up all the time and they’re not talking about that. Oh they’re beginning to talk about it, they had to in Japan because so many people are getting cancer. They had to! And the same thing’s going to happen here, look, it’s beautiful to have an ocean view folks, and the real estate industry is healthy and doing well, but it’s going come the point when buying real estate property along the beach is going to be very easy. Very easy. So just wait. If you need to
Dana: You’ll get a loan no problem at all. They’ll give you a loan if you want anything. They’ll give it to you. They’ll make sure you can’t get out of there. Now British Columbia just announced that they’re going to create a million jobs here in British Columbia, and that’s …
Jeff: A million jobs!? To do what?!
Dana: Well who knows, but they got a government site set up, and go to the site and start your training and there’s a million jobs coming in the energy industry, and blah, blah, blah. Now, what they’re up to, right, they’re making, getting people to get invested in careers and stuff like that, and they can’t pull out of there, and they’re so busy trying to pay back the money
Jeff: Course they’re stuck. They’re imprisoned. Hold on, Dana. We’ve got a pause again. You sound good and strong even if you are sick. And we really appreciate it, so stand by, we’ll come right back.
This issue of Fukushima radiation hitting the west coast British Columbia all the way down to Baja is an enormous one. No one’s talking about it. This Kelp Watch 2014 study is going to be obviously a fraud, the results will be skewed, controlled, and contrived, and you can count on that. The information from Japan, still relatively sparse, however, there was a big story that got out in this past week, Mainichi News reported that Fukushima plant still posing risks four years after meltdowns, well surprise, surprise. The text of the story “problems still occur regularly”, we don’t hear anything over here about this, “problems still occur regularly at the radiation-leaking complex. TEPCO says highly radioactive rain water has flowed into the Pacific Ocean every time it has rained.” Well what a shock. In the latest revelation of a series of contaminated water leaks it did not disclose the data for ten months by the way. “TEPCO’s president Naomi Herosi said Wednesday that the company could have dealt with the situation differently if we had been able to give consideration to the feeling” – quote, the feeling! – “of local fishermen. The number of accidents involving plant workers has increased as the decommissioning work becomes more complex. Over the past year two workers died at Fukushima Daichi, while other severe accidents occurred as well. So said the TEPCO president.” Whatever they say multiply it by ten. This is really ridiculous. Here’s another from the Japan Times. “There have been quite a few accidents and problems at the Fukushima plant in the past year, and we need to face the reality that they are causing anxiety, and anger, among people in Fukushima.” Final quote: “There are numerous risks that could cause various accidents and problems.” End quote. Understatement of the decade. Ah, this is not a plant undergoing decommissioning. This is a lie. It’s a trick of verbiage. It’s a plant that has been utterly destroyed. What they’re trying to do is pick up the debris, shut off the primary leaks of radioactive water, and somehow try to someday, decades and decades away, figure out a method by which they can reclaim and neutralize the release and encapsulate the melted radioactive cores. Now that said, what else do we there, folks? You know the answer. We have spent fuel pools, where all the fuel assemblies from plants one, two, and three are stored, five stories off the ground. They can’t get workers near buildings one, two or three to even assess the damage, because of the deadly radiation that’s pouring out of there. They can’t do it! So these ‘problems’, there’s nothing even in sight to give us hope that they can be successful with any kind of what they like to call decommissioning, it’s simply not going to happen. Nobody understands this, Dana, that this plant is destroyed, it is wrecked, it is not going to stop emitting radiation during the lifetimes of our great grandchildren. And how much can the Pacific coast take? If you’re 200 miles inland, 150 to 200 miles, you think you’re probably pretty good. Because we know the Jet goes up and over, through BC, and then down through Idaho, comes down the Midwest, there really is no safe place in the US. [Dana: No] Or Canada …
Dana: Well 200 miles is just getting off the ocean. That’s all. [Jeff: Got it] That’s what that was about. Getting away from the ocean itself: That’s a start. You’re still in an irradiated environment, all your food’s still going to be irradiated, all your water still going to be irradiated, you can’t escape that no matter how hard you try. Now icebergs, that are hundreds of thousands years old, got some good water left in it, but that’s about it. Everything else is going to be irradiated. The water that comes out of your tap is unstructured water, has chemicals added to it, but the stuff coming in the rivers is going to be irradiated,
Jeff: No, forget it. Look, if you have a garden and you water with rainwater, or other surface water, you better be doing very serious Geiger counter work on that water. If you have a well, and a greenhouse, you’re lucky. That’s really the goal everyone should opt out for, if possible. A greenhouse and a well. That way you can get water that’s a couple of hundred or three hundred feet down and is safe.
Dana: Can we try, I got a twenty second clip here Jay Cullen talking about …[Jeff: Oh please! Yah love to hear this guy.] Let’s see if I can get that to work. Here we go.
[Question from CBC:]
“If there were a complete meltdown , I mean a worst case scenario. Has there been any modeling, has there been any modeling done on what sort of radiation levels we would be likely to see in the Pacific, both near Japan and here? If that worst case scenario were to transpire? “
[Jay Cullen’s response]
“Well I think if you talk about it and then about still you need a point of compare…”
Okay, just one more.
“Well I’m not aware of any meltdowns, um, right next to oceans, we have, a lot of …
Jeff: WHAT DID HE SAY!? I’m not aware of any meltdowns near any oceans!
Dana: Right. That was actually CBC radio, talking to Canadians, the biggest broadcaster in Canada, [Jeff: UNBELIEVABLE!!] Nov. 20, 2013. And CBC pulled that clip. That’s gone now. But the story is still there.
Jeff: Well I’m not surprised. That’s one of the biggest bald faced lies I’ve ever heard. That’s amazing.
Dana: It is. And I got one more here. We’ll just try this one:
“I don’t feel I can really comment in any meaningful way about what it would mean for us here. Except that it would be, it would be a very serious situation to find ourselves in. I don’t feel like …”
So he talks about if there was a melted reactor in Japan, it would be a very serious scenario to be in, right, but he don’t feel that he can talk about it meaningfully, yet he is the spokesperson that the people, the Vancouver Sun, and all the major media throughout, all the radio shows, through British Columbia and Canada, they refer to this guy. Yet Canada has all kinds of nuclear scientists, and it’s a very curious thing why the journalists don’t contact the nuclear scientists and why they go talk to a marine chemist who doesn’t have a single paper on the actual manmade radiation. [Jeff: Unbelievable.] Discovered one out of 260 emitters that are harmless natural emitters on this planet, and that’s used to, it’s like potato chips, where it gets used to marginalize what’s going on. I just, felt like people needed to hear it themselves because I was talking about it earlier.
Jeff: No that was wonderful. That was very informative. Very informative. Yah.
Dana: Jay Cullen.
Jeff: He’s a chemist, folks, not a nuclear physicist. Understand.
Dana: Why is he the spokesperson for Canadians? Has to be the question. And why is he lying the way he’s lying. Why is he the guy that ..
Jeff: That clip ought to be played on a loudspeaker wherever you can get near that guy.
Dana: Right. And so that’s why we’re going to play that down at the university in Victoria when I finally get back, pass it out to anyone on CDs and everything else. Everybody going to that campus, and I guarantee you his career is done, in Canada, it’s over, and that’s the end of it. and I’m gonna try to get him prosecuted, and I’m certainly gonna prosecute him in the public sphere. Has to be done.
Jeff:. Beyond criminal; beyond criminal.
Dana: He has to go. And I think that is, then everybody says, who refers to him again, then people will have to say, well he just got, you know, booted out of the college because he’s a lying fabricating …, and they can’t go down that road so readily, any more. I think that is a good venue, you know, we don’t have even any venues to go after him with, we don’t have any, they don’t approach me, to get another side of the story, they don’t approach you to get another side of the story, or anybody else. They just keep getting his word [Jeff: That’s right] And people back up. So that’s really disappointing.
Jeff: That’s what they’re told to do. They are, they are ordered, instructed to do that. Five corporations own 95, 96 % of the media, it’s very simple to do. It’s ah…
Dana: Conrad Black just bought the local media here, I heard.
Jeff: He bought it all up? I wonder if there might be a reason for that? Interesting.
Dana: He’s one of the globalists. And you know he went to jail a couple of years ago.
Jeff: Yah I remember that. He’s back out and back in business.
Dana: Right. He’s back and he’s at it again. And I can’t imagine he’s willing to go to jail again. And so that’s an interesting thing that. That’s what we need is another mass of people. We just need people to get back in his face and to call up that institution and demand to get rid of him and if you had a few hundred people and in Canada we call up the institution and say hey, you don’t want that guy in our institution no more, he’s lying about it. And you know, blah, blah, blah. That could change the game, because these institutions are cowards, and they can’t handle head on criticism, they can’t handle blowback, and that’s what they do, they throw these people away , they’ll throw him to the dogs, they don’t care about …
Jeff: They’ll just unplug him and screw somebody else in the socket.
Dana: And he won’t rat them out. Right? He won’t come out and say, well they, they … [Jeff: Oh no. He don’t want to die, young.] Right. And I don’t have no fear of dying. And so I’m willing to take this as far as it has to go, no matter what it takes. I don’t have that fear and I, I understand that somebody out there has to really truly put their everything down on the plate and be willing to go that way or you can never get anywhere with these people. If you’re not willing to be locked up in a little tiny box for the rest of your life where people poke you with a stick and they stick the stuff to you then you can never go against these people. You have to be willing to take whatever comes your way, and I’m willing to do that, and I take it every day on the ocean, I’m sure it can’t be much more miserable than what I put up with every day on that ocean in that little tiny boat that I’m on. And the idea is once again if anybody is not familiar with it, is ah 5500 very visible species on the coastline of British Columbia, Canada, recognized by all the institutions. I can only find less than 100 throughout the entire coastline when you add them all up, and none of them are healthy. And of 600 algae I’m finding 22 algae. And this is all in a 4 year period. [Jeff: Wow.] This all really truly needs to…
Jeff: Well, tune in, in another couple of years, and you can cut your findings probably by three quarters. There won’t be anything left. [Dana: There won’t be anything left in a year. That’s for sure.] Over thirty million people permanently affected by Fukushima radiation in Japan now. Over 30 million, permanently affected. The number of people exposed to the Fukushima disaster triples those exposed and damaged by the Chernobyl disaster. 14,000 square kilometers heavily contaminated now in Japan. Heavily. All right my friend. You get some rest . Thank you Dana. It’s just great to talk to you. Be careful, will you? For god’s sakes do your, I know you are, but all right okay, okay.
Dana: Take care, my friend. Bye, bye. Bye, bye.
Jeff: We almost lost Dana today. You heard him. The man does not exaggerate either. He understates everything in terms of his own risks. All right, we’ll be back tomorrow night. Take care.
Transcript of Jeff Rense interview, March 30, 2015, of Yoishi Shimatsu and Dana Durnford, regarding the Fukushima disaster.
Jeff: Okay, and here we are, hour number three, it’s our Monday, and that means our regularly scheduled, although we do updates whenever the situation really warrants it, our update on Fukushima, which ah, has been, and continues to be, nothing but worse, and worse, and worse. And this is what we’ve been telling you for four years now, when Yoishi first came on the program, we began to talk about this. And it hasn’t changed. We’ve been telling you for four years. Things are going to be horrific for generations to come, the latest is, ah, well, let me just read the little headline here. You can see it up at the top centre column at Rense. The latest stories are always up there for you. ‘200 year wait’! At Fukushima, says the plant chief. It will be 200 years before they can begin to get a handle on this situation. ‘No idea’! Say the technicians and scientists, ‘how to decommission the reactors’. Well, how the hell do you decommission something that’s destroyed. You don’t. Decommissioning is done to something that’s still functioning. ‘The technology does not exist’! to decommission the reactors. ‘No viable method exists to deal with the melted fuel’. ‘There are so many uncertainties, we don’t have accurate information’; ‘engineers declare the problems insurmountable’!
Now this is again, going back to what we told you four years ago, so let’s go to Hong Kong now and say hello to Yoichi Shimatsu, who is standing by as always, and we’re going to talk to Dana Durnford in just a couple of minutes as well. Hi Yoichi! How are you?
Yoichi: Okay, good. Sorry about missing program for two weeks, past two weeks, first time was kind of inexplicable, my whole block area, went to a pretty good area, with pretty good reception, but the whole block every communication went down, you know, ah, phone and internet and all that, so, don’t know what happened, yah I mean they just, I guess the whole must, must have been a massive power blackout. And ah this last week I end up in the People’s Republic of China, you know, in Beijing, and obviously, be a very difficult place for us to hold this conversation without some sort of interruption of some sort, so, here I am in, ah, you know, the world’s freest city, they call it, Hong Kong, where, ah, this one woman, ah, I think she’s an engineer or scientist, she’s been doing radiation studies, here, and her expressions are ‘fantastic levels of radiation in Hong Kong’, and it’s compared with the past, [Jeff: Really!?] And, oh yah, that’s not surprising, because in the springtime there are currents, water currents that come down from the Philippine Trench, off Japan’s Philippine Trench, and they directly impact the coast of China, and they also hit Hong Kong here, further south, so…a little further up the coast is much more radioactive cause as I flew to Hong Kong down the Chinese coast, you know my watch, you know my Cheesaw watch, is still in trauma, not, they’re one of these solar charged watches, so I guess it’s sensitive to radiation, it’s knocked out, and this phone I’m talking to you about, I wrote you earlier, it was knocked out for about a day or two. So you know there’s enough radiation to incapacitate the electronics not to mention your body. I was feeling pretty bad the first couple of days out here. Okay now, but you know I’ve learnt how to just take the hit, and bounce back…but there’s a lot of radiation coming in to, you know, the China coast and ah it’s gonna be interesting how the Chinese react to that.
Jeff: Well, the Chinese, so far, Yoichi, they have, the Chinese have said next to nothing about this. They’ve been very quiet, I don’t know if it’s diplomacy or what but they’re not talking about the fact that they are getting hit with Fukushima radiation routinely.
Yoich: Yah well, you know, there is this really weird situation. There was a website there that I used to work for, they had a little video program for, especially young people in China, people for Internet sites, you know, they videotape them, they’ll be up and, and they translate into Chinese and all, but they asked me ‘what about the safety of Chinese tourists cause, it’s you know, Japan’s a favorite destination for Chinese tourists because the Japanese restaurants in Tokyo, where the Chinese like to stay, all over, give them huge discounts, you know, they’re just gorging themselves on sea food and things, and then I said this is insane, you know, people coming back from Japan to Hong Kong and Singapore, you know girls have come back with terrible stomach cramps, and according to my travel agent, also a good friend, who’s related to a doctor , you know, a gynecologist, and the gynecologist told him there were miscarriages, basically abortions, I suppose, and what came out of those girls was not human, but monsters, [Jeff: Really!?] monstrous, yah monstrous embryos, and the word has been slowly spreading in Hong Kong and Singapore among the local residents. Don’t go to Japan. Don’t eat Japanese food. But now there’s two things going on. The Japanese food offensive all around the world targeting Asian countries but now Milan Italy, [Jeff: Oh yah. Going after the Italians. I saw that.] Yah. It’s like as if Chernobyl was not enough of a threat for the Europeans, you know, now they’re being inundated with food, including from Fukushima, and we do know, you know, this radiation hit a much larger area, you know, of about five or six provinces, there are hot spot areas, where there’s not just, like all kinds of products are grown, and are being shipped out, in Thailand mushrooms, you know mushrooms are one of the most lethal, you know, of bio-gatherers of radiation, and you see Japanese mushrooms in all the Thai markets, just massively present, ah, discounted, you know, because the price is like a third of what they used to be, and, but, but you don’t see too many Thai people buying them, you know, they’re, they’re, they’re kind of savvy, but the Chinese you know are, well, it’s close, you know, China is close to Japan so it’s a cheap ticket, and but now, I’ve been discussing with this website, ah, you know, in, it’s ah, called April Media, ah they interviewed me about the tourism and I said hey there’s a new visa program for Chinese. You get a six month visa, okay? It’s unheard of for Chinese before, cause they were discriminated against by the Japanese, and only for the Chinese, ah you can get a six month visa, if you visit Okinawa, well, that’s where the US bases are, right, you know, Okinawa, or, and, Fukushima , Nyagi, and Juate, the most radioactive places, okay, in other words, and I said, this, this is very suspicious, you know, Japan wants to make A bombs to drop on the Chinese, but then that went up in smoke at Fukushima, they’re inviting the Chinese to get a good dose of radiation in Japan, so the people there were just outraged, they knew about the visa program, they didn’t realize, they thought it went to all people, all over the world, then they suddenly realized that that they’re targeted. They’re being invited in to die, basically, to be killed off.
The other problem for many of the Chinese who are going to go there, will run out of money, Japan is not exactly the cheapest place, so that’s probably when they’re in Fukushima and the northern provinces, Okinawa too, Okinawa too, that’s where the (unclear) labor contractors come up and ‘hey buddy, you want a good paying job, we got a job for you, now, the Chinese make a great group cause there’s so many millions of illegal residents all over the place, okay? In the world. So what if a few thousand Chinese disappear, you know, into the Japan Trench there? [Jeff: Man.] You work them to death, and you know… ‘would you like to go for a boat ride?’ ‘We’re all going to go for a boat ride and sink the boat.’ Right? So, something very insidious, you know, genocidal I might say, is going on here. I don’t know who actually, or what foreign ministries are involved, but it looks very… and you know people in Beijing said, ‘this looks bad!’ This is alarming, you know. This is incredible what’s going on, you know, they can’t believe anyone could be so devious as to invite your neighbors in, basically you know, to buy your own ticket to your death, basically, you know? We don’t even have to pay for it. For them to die, right? And I assume, once they work, once you get the illegal workers there, I told them, don’t expect that year end bonus. You know what I mean. By mid December they’re gonna invite you for a year end boat ride, you know, I mean this is incredible, what’s going on, this food offensive, it’s ah like a military offensive, against the world, it’s basically..
Jeff: That is uh, you’d think that some of the governments that are approached by Abe and his minions to push this dangerous food would stand up and say something. They either go silent and they have nothing to do with it but they won’t talk about it…
Yoichi: Yah. Means, that means bribery. All that means is they’re getting money, you know, they’re getting money under the table, so we have very corrupt … you see the Japanese government acts like a giant octopus, you know, one arm helps the other, I mean they might finance one of you sports programs, or cultural programs, but the money gets in, to the right pockets, in the government, and you know, the right people get promoted cause they have all the means and access and all that, and so it’s a huge bribery industry that Japan is at the center of, you know, it’s … you know, and there is a secret foreign ministry fund, they control a lot of profits from the largest bank in Japan, that’s the Postal Savings Bank, which pays very, very low interest rates, to Japanese savers, but they can skim off, you know, billions and billions of dollars for the Foreign Ministry slush fund, you know, so these guys are used to doing all this, for decades, you know, this is how they were able to buy the IAEA, which has a Foreign Ministry official from the nuclear department of the Foreign Ministry, he was hired from Tokyo University more than 40 years ago when the Japanese government issued an internal paper that we will expand our nuclear capabilities and one thing we’ll make sure of, no foreigner is going to interfere with us. Okay, this guy was hired immediately after the issuance of this statement, three years after, while he was in college, they basically recruited him in college, and ah Suzuki Iamono (?) head of the IAEA, he’s one of the big we know Foreign Ministry bribers, right, that’s how his position was bought, he’s been buying people in the IAEA for years, Japan’s the biggest rogue state, its arsenal is larger than Israel, India, Pakistan, and North Korea combined, okay? And they’re never mentioned in any report because that’s what the paper said, we’ll make sure, we will ensure, that no foreigner ever interferes with us. And what that means is I wonder what happened to the guy who don’t take the bait, right, what happens to the guy at the American embassy or wherever, who [Jeff: They own him for the rest of his life] Yah, yah, yah. He goes to (unclear…), nice girl picks him up and you know, and ah, he’s found knocked out next day, and an embarrassment to the government, right? So no one talks about it. This is how it’s done. This is how the business is done. Okay. In Japan.
Jeff: So they went to Italy. Who did they approach in Italy. Do you remember?
Yoichi: Well this is a food fair. So this would be the agriculture ministry. You know Italy does pride itself in its organic food , that it was relatively less affected by Chernobyl, because of the Apennines, you know, the Alps, the Apennines. [Jeff: Well they got lucky] They were one of the luckiest in Europe but now here they’re inviting in food from Fukushima. Really. It makes absolutely no sense. And you know Japanese food is very popular in Italy, so, … extremely dangerous.
Jeff: Good luck folks. You better wake up. As I said …
Yoichi: I don’t, I don’t go to Sushi bars, I mean, that’s just as point blank. I cannot afford to risk the ingestion, [Jeff: No. You’ve had enough] Yah, yah. The tipping point is there for most people, you know, we live in a radioactive age, in a radiation saturated age. And we got this solar activity and all that, that’s a lot of, you know, UV streaming down …
Jeff: Not only that. What was the story a week ago, 60 million Japanese are all inhaling radioactive pollen, now?
Yoichi: Yah. Yah, yah, yah, yah. That’s the cedar forest. They were grown after the war to build housing … but the male trees, they’re mostly male trees, release this very allergenic pollen, which gets into …, you can see it on the ground when it rains, it’s just like heaps of pollen, this stuff is on trees, where you know all the trees up there in that area are all radioactive. As I showed you much earlier, right, [Jeff: You told us about that a couple of years ago I think, yah.] Yah, in the watershed, massive radiation is building up, more and more releases, and there’s no way they can clean it, so, it comes in the rain, it comes in the wind, so, the pollen is a great carrier cause pollen is very sticky, you know, the pollen is [Jeff: Can you imagine. Going right into your lungs; Sticking in your bronchial tubes. Right in … Oh my god.]
Yah, yah, yah. So I never go during pollen season there. Just too dangerous. You know. It’s just ridiculously dangerous cause it’s no way, ah, there’s just no way that you can avoid the stuff. And it gets on your shoes, on your clothes, everything. So, so, the people, 60 million, yah, at least, you know. I mean, you know, the truth is probably everyone in Japan is exposed to this stuff cause the wind blows. [Jeff: I’m sure.] in this direction this time of year, yah…
Jeff: I would think. Yah. … Okay. Let’s say hello to Dana ands get an update from him, ah, you there Dana? Hello Dana.
Dana: Yah hi Jeff, thank you. Hi Yoishi. That was good stuff…. Thank you. That was really good. I was listening to you, and … it’s frightening…
Jeff: It’s horrible. Here’s the Times of London. ‘Japan faces a 200 year wait for Fukushima cleanup.’ Well, see there’s propaganda right there. It’s not Japan. It’s the world! The northern hemisphere faces a 200 year wait, for Fukushima to clean up.
Dana: Will Japan exist in 200 years … That’s the question I wan to ask …
Jeff: Yah that’s the exact question. ‘The chief of the Fukushima nuclear power station has admitted that the technology needed to decommission three melted down reactors does not exist on this planet.’ ‘And he has no idea how it can be developed.’ Right? …’The goal of decommissioning the plant by 2051 may be impossible.’ Ha, ha. Well forget about it, folks. Forget about it. So what are you doing? Where are you, ah, Dana?
Dana: Ha, ha, ha, ha. Trying to stay alive at this stage. I’m starting to upset people. And so …
Jeff: Tell me … No wait, wait, wait. What’s going on? Who’s getting mad at you?
Dana: Well there’s a lot of people I’ve always got, and I can understand the typical idiocy of people, sometimes, and just the naïve-ness of people, but it’s different when they target you, so, I got targeted by three thugs last night, and just before dark, so that was really intimidating. I just had to stand my ground, and was lucky some locals came by, that’s how I see it any way. They banged into me , chested me a few times, and so that, …I’m pretty fragile . [Jeff: Who? Wait, wait, wait. Wait. I’m sorry. I … ] I’m just saying like you don’t, when you’re out in the field itself, and you’re in these little communities, there’s always that opportunity, I guess, that that’s going to happen to you. That’s probably what happened to me, and but ….
Jeff: have you been …Dana, have you been faced down by people who obviously are trying to intimidate you after the last program?
Dana: Yah, last night, that’s right, Three people last night and just what I said, there was a few locals came by and I think that’s the only reason I’m talking to you tonight, probably. And that’s the real deal, that these people are of a mindful, and willing to take things to any level to stop the reality from coming out. And so like the way I see it, an isolated little community and people are noticing me and listening to me and starting to repeat me. And coming out on the street and talking to me, and asking me when I’m going to be doing a presentation and stuff like that. But obviously this particular place was farther permeated into the community, cause I’ve been back there a few times…and so I obviously upset the powers that be here, is my opinion only, of course, cause who knows for sure, and you know, it’s interesting, where I was cornered last night and I had people, big people, that didn’t keep their standing that good, and thumped me in the chest, trying to push me towards a corner, and I knew I wasn’t going in that corner, and so what I , …as I come back out of the corner that they were trying to get me into, and asserted myself, and I had to get toe to toe with people that I’m not capable of dealing with, but just to buy some time, you know, some locals came by and I was able to leave right past them, and they asked what was going on and I took that as an advantage to get out of there. Now I’m just saying that’s the problem is that most people would walk away at that stage, right? [Jeff: Yes.] That’s when you give up. And I had to face that. I couldn’t sleep last night thinking about it. I slept the day cause I rationalized it, and that came enough, so what I’ll do, I’ll pick the operation up, and move it tomorrow.
Jeff: How…Oh all right.… You’re going out again alone in this boat , ah, how close are you to, still two to four weeks from going home?
Dana: I would say, yah. Yah, two to four weeks it’s …whatever it takes. Because the problem is, before I leave here, I have to do presentations in these communities. And so next week I gotta rent these places and we’ve gotta, …I think this is where we make a stand, start making it. [Jeff: Good for you] People up here are switched on. And so the idea is to have no cover charge for people, so everyone can hear the narrative and once again, you know, I done an interview with the local newspaper , and they didn’t bother you know saying anything, they put out the Jay Cullen routine, and ignored that one and a half hour presentation. It just …unbelievable.
Jeff: So they published Jay Carney [sic: Cullen] and didn’t mention the fact that you were doing a one and a half hour presentation for the betterment and the benefit of the community…
Dana: I answered every question they had, and they asked the right questions, they recorded everything, they paid attention, they asked pertinent questions only, and nothing. Not a peep. But people, you know because the narrative is coming out in these little communities, and some of the local activists have started harassing the local papers and the local radiation – I don’t know the proper word for it – but they say that they don’t find any radiation whatsoever. But in the same sentence say the Geiger counter can find the radiation in a banana. The potassium 40. And the Geiger counter doesn’t work that way, for starters. But they put that in the paper. That’s actually in their paper. And so, we’re gonna blow that one out of the water, cause these are small towns, so presentation in a town like this I think can get everybody switched on in the Queen Charlottes, and [Jeff: Can you get somebody to video tape one of these?] Right. I’m gonna encourage everyone of them to videotape it, and share it with their friends and family on Facebook and that kind of thing. And I give them a narrative to work with. And I’ll answer their questions. That’s the best that, …that’s all I can do for them. But I have to do that for a reason.
Jeff: So they don’t… They don’t … No! The Times of London says ‘the Japanese say they have to face this for 200 years.’ No! It’s the people in British Columbia who have to face this for 200 years. They need to know this! The Fukushima plant engineers are saying that to overcome problems, that they the engineers face, are insurmountable. They can’t do it. They can’t do it!
Dana: Right. So we need to have a debate. We need to treat it as an (unclear- anurite?). And then we treat it with the urgency, the respect, the nobility, that it deserves. And, because the pound level in a room full of 1500 people … that’s Arne Gundersen, everybody in the front row is dead, that’s a 1500 car park , to tell them. And everybody in the rest of building, they say is dead in 20 minutes, so that one town could drag all those bodies out and they could be in a frenzy with people, 20 minutes, driving 1500 more people, and kill them for twenty minutes, and drag them out, and drag in another 1500 people, by the time that it’s done. The pound. The pound. And each reactor had 5 million of them, and each reactor, I have no idea I saw huge portions of that, and it went into a chain reaction cannibalizing everything around it, all the rocks, all the rebar, they’re all open, and the pieces that are already gone are more radioactive than all the grains of sands on all the beaches on this planet. You know, and there’s so many of these different [radioactive hot] elements and they’re so carcinogenic, because when you put it to a chain reaction it’s so many times worse than nuclear [weapons].
Jeff: All right. Todd, we’re going to go through this break, to make sure we get both these gentlemen on as much as we can, and ah, Yoichi, in Hong Kong, have you heard what British Columbia is doing, ah, so far now, when the rubber hits the road, the media up there in these small towns is knuckling under, obviously it’s superior pressure from outside. But is Hong Kong talking very much about this stuff, in the media there?
Yoichi: Not a whole lot. That’s the problem because the media here also is in avoidance. This story about radiation in Hong Kong is very important because that sort of broke the ice. She found lots of radiation in the schoolyards, but of course those are places where water gathers, right? Roof tops, school yards are flat, open places, so I think that’s going to break the dam of silence here. Ah the other problem is you know Hong Kong people love to go to Japan, ah, not just to Disneyland but to see the aquarium, Tokyo has a very great aquarium, the Reekang. The Reekang(?) Park is at the mouth of the Ayakawa river, which is where the sludge, you know they dredge up the river sludge to burn, to remove radiation, to deepen the waterway, but that plant is owned by TEPCO, TEPCO secretly owns a lot of the sludge plant. TEPCO is a huge monster, 300 different companies, thousands of assets, they’re not broke by any means. They have tones of money making operations.
Jeff: Yoichi, excuse me, are you saying that the sludge they’re burning comes from the river. I thought it came directly from the waste water treatment plant, so they are actually sucking up from the river?
Yoichi: They dredge the river because the radiation is so high, and they’re getting about 4000 becherels per kilogram of sludge, so it’s pretty high. The Ayakawa River feeds right into Tokyo Bay into where all the Olympics are, and the aquarium is right near there. It’s right there, a park, a beautiful park, which is unfortunately highly radioactive, now. And there they had a gigantic, probably one of the biggest fish tanks in the world, where they had a school of Tuna, swimming around, you know, 65 tuna, 100s of other fish, smaller types of (albacore?) and so on, now, a week ago, Japan Times broke the story, there’s only one tuna left, all the rest died mysteriously. So this just confirms what Dana is saying, and I’m afraid this 200 year business you’re talking about, what’s coming up over is not just [radioactive] cesium and strontium, those were the lightweight things, they’re coming over to tritium, these tritium killed these tuna, and also, plutonium. They’re finding out that nano-particles of plutonium are all over the ocean. Yah it’s on the surface of the Pacific and won’t sink, it’s too small, it’s so hard to detect, because it’s nano-particles, one atom across, you know, a proton across, so ah, not proton, it’s a nucleus across, so, it’s a nano-particle blowing across the waves. When this stuff hits it’s over. With the tritium, I just don’t see any survival rate along the Pacific coast if that hits. So, it may well be over before twenty years, you know, not 200. This stuff will keep coming, keep coming to a wasteland. Where every form of life and every person who stays there will be dead, you know, probably in 20 years, so. I’m not saying this lightly but they can’t face it. I mean, been going on, and I say, that’s the lightweight stuff, you know. The real deadly killers are on their way and coming. And what happens if Tokyo Bay at that aquarium is really a premonition of what … [Jeff: That’s a shocker. Yup. They were obviously …]. This is filtered water.
Jeff: Right, right, right. What you’ve got is an aquarium that takes its water from the bay and filters it, correct?
Yoichi: Yes! Yah, massively filtered, filtered, so they try to …[Jeff: That’s not enough.] So therefore, they take out everything but what they can’t take out is tritium, which is nearly identical to water. And tritium, now, we’re really seeing the tritium has deadly effects.
Jeff: So the tuna are all dead, wow, except one!
Yoichi: Yah, yah, except one, 65 giants, blue-fin tuna, plus hundreds of other smaller tunas, all wiped out, only one. I don’t know how that one survived. That’s one tough character.
Jeff: And nobody’s talking about it. Nobody’s saying the r word. No one in the Japan media over there is covering it. This is a major story, huge.
Yoichi: Yah, it’s huge. Because tuna, they have red blood cells, you know, I mean that’s why the flesh is pink, their circulatory system is much like ours, like humans, you know, so therefore, when we get tritium in our water supply, and I’m afraid it’s in the Tokyo water supply, cause the Tama river is the water source, there’s massive buildup of radiation in
Jeff: It is!? That’s the water source for Tokyo!?
Yoichi: Well there’s another river called the Tama which is very, very high, it was hit too, the upper, uplands there were hit massively by Fukushima, and Tokyo’s water, basically that’s where Tokyo draws its drinking water, the water you take a shower or a bath in, so, tritium, as tritium filters into the clouds, because it is a form of water, okay? You saw what happened to the tuna. Yah? What I’m trying to say , we, the cesium and the strontium will kill you slowly, all right, unless you have a heart condition. It’ll knock out your heart. But the tritium seems to be a knockout punch. It’s in the water. You can’t filter it out.
And it seems to have this lethal effect, as was shown on these 64 tuna that were just you know wiped out, you know, in a matter of months.
Jeff: Okay. I gotta go back to Dana. Let me ask you one other question, though. I talked to a … ah … a person, who was at a very high level in a delegation that went to Brazil and the Brazilians agreed to – there’s a lot of Japanese in Brazil, apparently – to give Japan as much land as it needed to resettle as much of its population as it wanted to. That deal is on the table, and complete. No one’s talking about it, but it looks like we’re going to see in the next, what, two to five years, undeniable levels of death and dying, in Japan. Where they won’t be able to hide it, cover it up any more. And, and, ah, go ahead.
Yoichi: Yah, absolutely. The talk is of building a city of 20 million people, there, in Brazil, so this is like the greatest migration in I think in modern history. You know I mean, how many people came through Ellis Island and all that, you know, it’s gonna be bigger than any migration we’ve ever had. So this is huge. It’s the death of a nation. Nuclear power, has killed the country, and the more we find out, I told you I think, I believe I told you earlier that in Frankford I gave a first presentation on discovering three nuclear weapons sites at Fukushima, you know, these were underground, vast underground chambers, and that the trail from those places led to the ocean, so basically they’ve piled that - you know, high level plutonium 241, the highest level of plutonium used in weaponry - and piled it on barges, and sank the barges, in the Pacific, okay? So, that’s why I’m saying; this ain’t just a bunch of uranium with a little bit of plutonium, we’re talking about probably as much as the Russian stockpile of plutonium, been dumped in the ocean, and it’s breaking open and you know, there’s no real attempt to contain it in any way, so, yah, we’re in for it, we’re really in for it, cause this is … and this is why all the engineers at Fukushima are starting to break down. They’re starting to talk. This is serious.
Jeff: This is the most shocking revelation in print that I’ve seen, yet, I think. It just says no technology exists on the planet , we have no idea, this is insurmountable, 200 years at least. We haven’t seen this before. They waited four years to tell us what Yoichi was telling us four years ago. On this program.
Yoichi: Yah. We were telling you in the first week I think, so this was [Jeff:We selected ?it and we were right]. This is the problem that Dana faces, in the future, the worst is yet to come. You know, everyone thinks the worst is right after Fukushima. No, folks, the worst is still coming across, bubbling up in the Pacific.
Jeff: Accumulating everywhere for god’s sakes. Ah Dana. We got, it’s not just the people in BC, and when you speak to them, ah, you’re going to tell them things that they will not forget, that they’re going to take to the city fathers and whatever littler community they’re in, to their media, you are, ah, I wish there was someone with you. To help take better care of you. Ah this is wrong. If there’s someone up there who knows what we’re doing and knows Dana, get out there and spend two to four weeks with this man and let’s get him home safe. This is dangerous stuff. You got the real estate industry, you got the tourism industry, you got the food industry, and they don’t want to hear any of this stuff. None of it.
Dana: That’s a fact. Got them worried. A lot of them, and I heard it now, that a lot of them are worried that I’m standing at the end of their future, and that, basically, if I go away, their future continues. That’s how they see that. And that’s how narrow minded people truly really are. Because that’s what I’m told by people in the know. You know, I’ve been telling this stuff, that people are really, really truly, see it that way. But back to what Yoichi was saying. The plutonium 239 levels was as almost as high as the cesium 137 eleven kilometers from the Fukushima Daichi place, and plutonium is measured in just oodles amounts, 239, 240, and strontium all over the debris they’re burning that you’re talking about, earlier, Yoichi, and plutonium and from the direct releases from not just the plutonium it’s turning into gas and yet they claim that it’s released in the journal of nuclear chemistry, I can’t even pronounce their names, but they’re talking about liquid direct releases of plutonium into the Pacific Ocean, and that any increases in cancer around the nuclear site all around the world now is confirmed, studies now everybody is starting to realize that that’s where their children were growing up and that’s why they ended up with the terrible leukemias and cancers and birth defects. Abortions,
Jeff: The sad thing Dana is that the data about living within 50 miles of a nuclear power plant and the incidence of cancers and other …that data’s been out there! It’s not hidden. It’s there. But now people are beginning apparently to look at it. And I would urge …
Dana: All the data they talk about is based on a one minute release, so Harvard, and Yale, and Stanford, and MIT, and Oxford, and all the nuclear apologists never refer to a single piece of high level radiation exposure, its just based on one minute, and once again, Dr. Raymond Gillneti from respiratory is one of tens of thousands of scientists who spent decades killing animals with the smallest bit of plutonium 241, and 239, and that’s documented, they got peer review studies and they’ve been published and you can get the synopsis when you look up these people and so why don’t the media refer to those studies that show that the smallest amount will kill 87 % of the animals with a single inhalation, and [Jeff: Wow!] and that the highest percentage with repeated inhalation. But all the animals that didn’t die in the four year period of the studies all had cancer in their lungs. And then most of them had, they all had lung cancers, from the plutonium, and the . That was the really popular one, the animals in a lot of the studies the baboons and the rats and the were the same way, and the people died in particular . This wa something they flushed out so long ago but nobody wants the studies claim that the studies are basewd upon a one minute exposure. Killed animals so we don’t have to guess about, liked Yoishi was saying, the tuna are way up the food chain, folks! They’re way up the food chain. They’re incredibly far up, they’re way bigger than us, way up the food chain, their bodies weigh far more than we can, but put them into that environment and what happens. They disappear like unbelievable. And you can’t, the nanotechnology doesn’t exist to filter it out and we’ve been trying but have that capacity, we have 4350 peer reviewed studies every day, and if we treat it like a (netorite ?) to switch on those studies we could solve a lot of these issues, have some kind of a future hope, as a sign of good faith, but no, they sit and insist that there’s more natural radiation, which isn’t really radiation, it’s emitters, 260 natural emitters on the planet, but they’ve only got a half life of one ten thousandth of a second, that can’t give you cancer, but any of real radioactive elements out of Japan were all hot particles, they’re really hot particles, and if you ended up with a single hot particle will cause a cancer. And that’s why what Yoichi is saying about everybody is in a whole lot of trouble and don’t understand it. And the tides coming at you and we all inhaled 10 hot particles a day in March April and May in 2011 in North America. Everybody, the minimum. And once again, if you’re highly active outdoors, you’re inhaling a lot more. And that includes your children on the way to school, folks. So the onus is on us, it’s our generation, and it might be the last one, we better get it right. Cause we’re only gonna get one kick at this can. And what Yoichi is telling you and Jeff is telling you is not a fable, is not a just off the top – ah I read something, this is really dangerous for us! Got to pay attention. – No this is flushed out four years non stop, that’s what Jeff and Yoichi they haven’t stopped and their issue doesn’t stop. When they tell you that you really got to take it to heart and try your best to make sure that you have an opportunity, you’re gonna have to confront the community, you’re gonna have to become articulate, you’re gonna have to become knowledgeable, and you’re gonna have to go through the data in the archives, and Jeff has huge archives out for starters, and Yoichi has written an incredible amount of material, unbelievably articulate, just wonderfully articulate, good material, and you know, that should never go down a black hole, and you always have to revise and revisit it and peer and marvel at that legacy over four years all collectively been put together for you. It’s in chronological order. How can you ask for more, folks? That’s why I’m saying to people, they’re the people who have been doing all the work for four years and got that whole litany and its just a wonderful experience getting that data, and that’s why Yoichi can say this and Jeff can say this, and that’s why I can say cause I went through there and I got that experience trip and everybody should do that, spend weeks and weeks and then you can’t stop and you learn so much, and now you have a debate with your friends and your neighbors, all you can and explain it to them, you know, that the reactors really truly melted, the are really truly real and
Jeff: Yes they are. Yoichi. What’s our prognosis? This year. Seriously.
Yoichi: Well, you know I would tell people, yourself included, it’s not too early to start making some mid term plans. You know, if the kill off really extends, and one gets a radiation caused illnesses, you can sit there on your 20 million dollar property, but there’ll come a day when there’ll be a … the postman will deliver an envelope to your house, containing one pill per family member, saying take this, cause this is the cure for radiation, you know. And yah, you take that and it will be over. You will not have to fear radiation any more. Cause that will be the solution. Okay? So if you want to sit around and wait for the cyanide in the mail, okay, put your property ahead of your life. Ahead of your children’s lives. But if you want to be smart you’ve got to develop a strategy cause you got to get out of the way of what’s happening with the plutonium on the water, the tritium is just, there’s no way to survive that. There’s no way. And going down will be terrible when the hospitals are full, and they just have to turn you away, you know. Ah there’s just too many patients, people are keeling over, on the streets, so, this is real, the level of intensity, the fact that I finally realized that they dumped, you know, war grade plutonium, you know, dozens, maybe hundreds of tones of it, into the ocean, it’s basically, the northern hemisphere is doomed. People have got to make other plans. This is all I have to say. But yah. You’ve got to start thinking. Use your head. Where can you go out of the line of fire?
Jeff: The only real place to go is obviously South America. And that’s it.
Yoichi: Obviously so. Obviously so.
Jeff: Or, or, if you want to tough it out you’ve got to get on top of your diet, you’ve got to get on top of your supplements, now, and you’ve got to stave this off to the best of your ability. If you continue
Yoichi: You’ve got to hold it off until you can develop your plan.[Jeff: Right.] Yah you must hold it off because otherwise you’re going to be too weak to do anything, you know. I had bouts of this radiation and it hammers you. It weakens you. It slows your mind and your reactions down and not everyone can come back. Ah, I go through intensive herbal treatments and cleansing to get it out but that’s why I cannot go back to Fukushima as much anymore, cause it’s getting to be a turning point, cause you gotta
Jeff: Please don’t go back there. You’ve been there a dozen times, jeez …
Yoichi: It is building up though, people on the American west coast are getting a steady dosages, not the density, the levels are not high in density, is not great, but it can be deceptive, you can have exactly the same levels of radiation but the density in the air is much higher, as in Japan. In Japan, you can go to relatively – I went to tennis courts on the island, was high, but not that high, but the air is so dense with this low level radiation that it’s just gamma exposure is massive. Okay, you’re just getting bombarded.
Jeff: Now that’s especially so in the marine in layer, where there’s moisture, and …the moisture holds it right down. I’m 150 miles inland and there’s three thousand foot and four thousand and five thousand foot mountains almost all the way…
Yoichi: You’re awfully lucky there. You have a shield, yah. You have a shield. Hold it back for a while.
Jeff: But oh well. It’s all a question of time. We had no winter this winter, Yoichi. We had two rains, that really mattered, and no snow, no snow pack, nothing. No winter. Now they put that big blocking high pressure through up the coast again, to try to keep I’m sure, the radiation from coming on shore.
Yoichi: Yah they can’t allow that tritium to come in the clouds, drift in. The tritium drifting in gets in the water, accumulates in the lakes, you know, what can we say? This is, this is, what’s so bad is we don’t have information, you know, they’re not telling us, they’re just, they have to fess up and say yah, we, we ah, track it, you know dozens of tons of high grade plutonium, and we did dump I in the ocean. They’re gonna have to say that, they’ll have to tell people where they dumped it, and so some way to somehow cover that mess up will have to be figured, to delay everything. Unless we act fast, what the engineers are saying is that there is no technology, now – unless we admit to the problem there won’t be any technology in 200 years. The only way we’re going to get that technology is if people realize we face an imminent danger, not a long term danger, you know like I say, I don’t think there’s much life gonna be around in the northern Pacific in 200 years. Now that’s
Jeff: Nah, nah, in ten years. It’s gonna be virtually gone. You know I don’t see, I’m not knocking people because I don’t follow them, but I don’t see any of the names that like Arne Gundersen, saying much anymore. Ah, I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with that, maybe he was talked to, maybe he had enough, maybe he realizes the situation so I don’t know. But he was making a lot of very good statements at the beginning, no more, you, I’m not kidding, you, and this program, and Dana, are about it, in terms of on the spot, current, instant, information. We’re not getting any …
Yoichi: Well, just hang in there. When you see the pill in the mail , toss them is the trash. Toss them in the dumpster, okay? That’s all I have to say, you know. That pill comes in many different forms, the pill of silence, we have to continue to resist the , keep people’s eyes on the ball here, and people gotta start thinking , now, you know, about what they’re going to do, especially if you have a family. You really have to figure out what you’re going to do.
Jeff: I can’t even imagine that. That’s gotta be Dana your biggest job. Talking to people with families. Ah who were making a living up there , I don’t know what you’d tell them, but they, the sad truth is, [Dana: Going to tell them what happened. Go ahead Jeff] No No, you go ahead.
Dana: I’ll explain to them exactly the whole event, the actual reality of it, and throughout the county, and explain to them that that didn’t go away, just because people didn’t continue to report about it. And that they need to drink spring water, only structured water, peer reviewed academic studies, you can have a whole list of natural organic stuff. It all cleans up your blood, and cancer pollutes your blood. So to have any kind of future you have to get your loved ones and your friends and family .
Jeff: If you have a garden you should only use well water, you should dig a nice deep well, 150, 200 feet deep, that’s right, it’s clear, it’s still safe; you use lake water, stream water, you’re asking for trouble. This stuff’s going to accumulate.
And your plants get irradiated too, so the plants are a big water source for the community, your homes are all being irradiated but your taps are being irradiated, water treatment plants are all irradiated, radiations coming through, they’re leaving the filters in place, every day in north America, probably not counting , could solve that in one day if they went to work on it. And everybody could have some kind of a comfort, not much, but Yoichi’s right and you’re right,
Jeff: Listen Dana. Thank you. We got to wrap this up. You. I don’t know what to say. I’m very concerned about you [Dana: I was so wound up I couldn’t sleep last night. I’m still steamed about that. I had to go tell about big people and it was unbelievable…I don’t like it.] And thugs. And ah they’re gonna follow you the rest of the way. They’re gonna follow you the rest of the way.
Dana: Yah, they are intimidating me but I’m not stopping. [Jeff: Right] Okay folks. Thanks to everybody. Good night Yoichi. [Yoichi: Yah, good luck Dana! Good luck to you.]
Jeff: All right. Yoichi, they’re gonna follow him all the way home. And ah continue to hassle him.
Yoichi: Yah, that doesn’t sound good. I wonder who the, the, on whose payroll these thugs are on, you know. Yah, certainly the RCMP aren’t there stopping the thugs, you know. I mean, so this was…
Jeff: No. They’re not …
Yoichi: Dana’s already facing enough threat out there from the water, you know, being there…
Jeff: You know, one other thing …
Yoichi: Radioactive environment, I mean, why should the government harass him, I mean, it’s a rough, he’s already in a high risk situation, and by choice, by will power, and they should just leave him alone, they should have the decency, he’s not doing this to ah frighten or take advantage of the situation, he’s doing this to try to help his fellow Canadians, you know, and the Canadian government has the duty to protect him, from the gangsters who work for the uranium and nuclear power industry. Because they are gangsters. Hired thugs.
Jeff: They’re killers. Ah you know you said something earlier and you’re right I was thinking back. What we talk about in the first week or two after you started, after the event, when you came on the program, has every bit of it has proven to be exactly correct. Every bit. You haven’t been wrong on any of it.
Yoichi: Yah, yah. We were exact about what we predicted but what we wrong at, is that it’s far worse than anybody predicted, okay? You know the volume of meltdown which they’re trying to, they’re hunting for now, with this muon detector, they can’t find any thing in the upper regions of these reactors. You figure there’d be a few broken rods. They can’t find broken rods left there. But now the engineers at last are saying ah the corium at three reactors has melted down and don’t know, we think it’s at the bottom of the reactor but we’re not sure. I mean this kind of talk, now this is far worse than what we were talking about back then. [Jeff: It is so, you’re right] Yah, but we were right, we were right about the meltdown was very serious and they were lying. They did not admit to meltdown for months, for months, you know, and it was happening within two hours, of the earthquake. Two hours is enough. [Jeff: Almost leaves me speechless anymore. It’s so hideous. Ah thank you my friend, and take care of yourself, and I’ll talk to you next week. [Yoichi: Very good, very good. ] Yoichi Shimatsu, in Hong Kong, okay, there it is, and ah no it’s not in the MSM, you’re not going to see it on CNN, but it’s true, we tell you the truth here. Okay, tomorrow night is Tuesday, we will back with you tomorrow night, on the last day of March, already. We move into April. So take care. Have a good day tomorrow. And we’ll talk soon.